So, one of the topics that seems to come out of the success of All In is WWE’s relationship with the indys and it seems that a lot of people think that Vince McMahon and WWE are trying to kill off the indys because they’re afraid of competition. That’s right, Vince McMahon, owner of the largest wrestling company in the United States, if not the world, broker of billion dollar TV deals, and creative genius behind WrestleMania, Monday Night RAW, and hundreds of iconic characters, is scared of competition from promotions like Ring of Honor and TNA and that All In shows that indy wrestlers don’t need WWE to be a success.
Well, if you believe that, I’ve got some property in Arizona with a lovely ocean view for sale. Yes, All In was very successful, no one’s arguing that, but the ideas that WWE is afraid of competition or that any wrestler on that card wouldn’t jump at the chance to wrestle in WWE is so ridiculous, it’s laughable, as is the overused comments about WWE raiding other companies for talent or ‘stealing’ talent.
This idea that WWE is afraid of competition goes back to the Monday Night Wars between WWE and WCW, though it has its roots in the expansion of the WWF in the 80s, and it’s total nonsense. Vince didn’t want to put the territories out of business, he wanted to compete because that is the essence of capitalism, for better or worse. This narrative that everything in the territories was great until mean old Vince destroyed everything has some basis in truth, but the idea that Vince didn’t want to compete is not true.
According to Jericho, Vince’s first reaction to All In was express regret that Cody and the Bucks hadn’t come to him for advice because he would’ve told them that September was awful for promoting, which it is. He wasn’t worried or scared, he wanted it to succeed. He helped Paul Heyman keep ECW afloat because he could see that there was a lot of potential in it and that they were producing great stars.
Here’s what people don’t get about Vince McMahon: Vince McMahon is HYPER-competitive. He competes with anyone and there are plenty of stories about this need to compete to go around. Vince isn’t afraid of competition, he LOVES competition. This is a man who, by his own admission, used to pick fights with Marine recruits on weekends as a teenager. The situation with during the Monday Night Wars was about surviving on Vince’s end. He had no issue with Nitro until they started threatening to put WWF out of business. He’s not worried about Ring of Honor or TNA hurting his business because A. They aren’t an actual threat to WWE. and B. He loves competition. A good chunk of WWE’s young talent has worked Ring of Honor, TNA, or both.
As for ‘talent raiding’ or ‘talent stealing’, you can’t steal someone who wants to go. If the talent WWE is signing didn’t want to go, they wouldn’t be signing. Going to WWE has always been the goal of professional wrestlers since the sixties and while it is possible to have a great career without performing for WWE, it’s also true that working for WWE, even for a year, can help an indy performer’s career and pay.
One of the most absurd things I’ve heard is how indy guys don’t need to go to WWE because they make enough money in the indys and/or money isn’t as important to them as performing. Anyone who tells you that they’re doing something for the love of performing either has someone else bankrolling them or isn’t very good at what they’re doing. Making money has always been one of the chief considerations of any professional wrestler or performer, for that matter. Listen to all the old-timers talk about the territory days, being champion was not as important as making money, and that’s still true. Yes, the top guys can make a pretty good living, but they are also working for several different promotions at the same time to make that money. Also, many wrestlers have real life considerations, like a family, a house, and paying their bills. It’s part of the reason why guys with families will stay in WWE, even if they aren’t on top like they were in the indys, because they can support their families and be home more often than working for several promotions at a time allows.
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The Good, Bad and Ugly: WWE NXT (01/23/2019)
The go-home show for WWE NXT Takeover: Phoenix is in the books, and Bobby Fernandes takes a look at the episode from the Good, Bad, and Ugly perspective!
WWE NXT Takeover is coming on Saturday Night before a huge Sunday Royal Rumble. The stories finalize before the big PPV and everyone has one final chance to solidify their place on the show. Raw was packed with a ton of content, SmackDown in contrast was not, but was pure quality with the exception of a few small issues. Now its NXT’s turn to get us and keep us sucked in. Will NXT do their job as usual?
Opening Segment w/ Velveteen Dream
What an interesting way to open the show. Dream always has a spectacular time in front of the camera in any fashion. It is no secret that he has been a bit unhappy with his current “drawbacks” and wants more. Just when he makes a claim to the North American Championship, Adam Cole and Bobby Fish, interrupted Velveteen Dream. This would be such a brilliant feud. Undisputed Era is just fantastic and brings the best to the audience constantly. Dream doing what he does best, got in Undisputed’s head before fleeing safely away. Very interesting open.
Danny Burch and Oney Lorcan vs. Fabian Aichner and Marcel Barthel
Burch and Lorcan are dangerously Good. They pair up so well, and have great matches with anyone they face. Aichner and Barthel didn’t seem like anything special from previous times but the chances for a better showing with Danny and Oney increase significantly. Oney Lorcan got singled out early on by Barthel and Aichner and took a lot of punishment until Burch came in hot and took control. Lorcan again however got singled out. Aichner did some awesome stuff in there nearly getting the win, but Lorcan would not surrender. There was a lot of action here. Oney Lorcan is so freaking Good. After a seriously kick ass back and forth match, Oney Lorcan gets a rollup for the victory.
Io Shirai and Kairi Sane vs. Tanea Brooks and Amber Nova
Shirai and Nova started out, full steam. Shirai has a unique style and always delivers. The same can be said about the ever popular Kairi Sane. Her gimmick, style and absolutely talented abilities have been well showcased and appreciated. Tanea Brooks is a powerful wrestler and had a Good energy. She just was a bit of an afterthought while in the ring with Sane and Shirai. With the Main Roster’s Women’s Tag Team division coming up Sane and Shirai could make a strong case for those new shiny Championship belts once things are in motion. They certainly won this week in a decisive fashion. Nothing great but passible as Good overall.
Velveteen Dream vs. Bobby Fish w/ Adam Cole “BAY BAY”
Oh my God, what an awesome treat here. We have an incredible match set up, and a surprise one at that. The presence of these two, the respect they demand is unprecedented. Bobby Fish is an unsung hero as to how talented he truly is. Both competitors are greatly unique. As it should be expected, the action went back and forth and was plentiful. Dream is all over the ring, continuous action. Fish finally got a chance and went after Dream’s legs and knees. Great move keeping Dream down. Fish really got in deep with a half crab on the injured knee of Dream, but Dream does not quit. As hard as Fish tried he just couldn’t get Dream to stop but Fish countered an elbow drop an ended up almost getting dream to tap, but Dream again came back. Dream hit his “Purple Rainmaker” for the win. Adam Cole of course ran in but Dream got out in time. Great match.
Ricochet is one of the most talented high flyers of all time, that will be repeated often his entire career. He moves around like no other. Gargano is called Johnny Wrestling confidently for well deserve reasons. They will put it all out there. Hyping it will only get Good attention and heat. Ricochet is so confident and wears the North American Title well. Ricochet’s Achilles heel is his mic skills. He could use a Good hype man or woman so that he can only focus on his in ring talents. Johnny Gargano could not interrupt fast enough and luckily for everyone he isn’t Bad to listen too. Gargano and Ricochet did not waste any time and went at it. Out of nowhere, Ciampa the NXT Heavyweight Champion attacked Ricochet coming to the aid of his former friend and heated rival. Very interesting. Of course Aleister Black came out and beat the hell of Ciampa for his trouble. Gargano came to Ciampa’s rescue hitting Black with a devastating “superkick.” The duo previously known as “DIY” dominated both Black and Ricochet before leaving their rivals laying in the ring. Ciampa and Gargano seemed like they were about to bury the hatchet until Gargano’s wife Candace put a stop to it. Decent promo and end to a successful week.
THE BAD – No
THE UGLY – and No
- GOOD – 5
- BAD – 0
- UGLY- 0
Good which means it must be NXT. Again, another successful, entertaining, content filled NXT. They literally had as much impressive content as SmackDown did and they did it in an hour. NXT sets the standard and hopefully WWE Main Roster watches and takes notes every chance they get.
NXT continues to be the most entertaining brand of all weekly. The sky is the limit and with HHH steering the ship, the momentum is surely going to continue for some time. They have a lot of fresh talent as well as established Superstars, and Takeover should deliver above expectations. That is what NXT does.
Daily DeMarco: New Japan’s “New Beginning in USA’ Cards Are Irresponsible
Greg DeMarco weighs in on the sure-to-be-controversial New Japan “New Beginning In USA” cards that were recently released.
Well hello there! I know it’s been a few days since I last posted, and if you follow me on Facebook, you know what’s been going on (see that here). But I am excited to be back, and excited to share my opinions with you!
New Japan’s United States events, called “New Beginning In USA,” finally got their announced cards today.
January 30 in Los Angeles:
- Alex Coughlin vs. Clark Connors
- Jonathan Gresham vs. Tyler Bateman
- Colt Cabana vs. Shane Taylor
- Brody King & Marty Scurll vs. Killer Elite Squad
- Jeff Cobb vs. Karl Fredericks
- David Finlay vs. Chuckie T
- Tracy Williams & Juice Robinson vs. Roppongi Vice (Trent Beretta & Rocky Romero)
February 1 in North Carolina:
- Karl Fredericks vs. Clark Connors
- John Skyler & Colt Cabana vs. Shane Taylor & Lance Archer
- Tracer X vs. Great-O-Kharn
- Jonathan Gresham & Jeff Cobb vs. Brody King & Marty Scurll
- Alex Coughlin vs. Davey Boy Smith Jr.
- Tracy Williams & David Finlay vs. Rocky Romero & Chuckie T
- IWGP United States Championship: Juice Robinson (c) vs. Trent Beretta
February 2 in Nashville:
- Karl Fredericks vs. Alex Coughlin
- Jonathan Gresham and Colt Cabana vs. Shane Taylor and Lance Archer
- Harlem Bravado vs. Great-O-Kharn
- Clark Connors vs. Marty Scurll
- Jeff Cobb vs. Brody King
- Tracy Williams, David Finlay and Juice Robinson vs. Rocky Romero, Chuckie T and Trent
These shows aren’t bad, but they aren’t New Japan cards! The company isn’t even sending over any lower card guys. I know you have a concurrent tour in Japan, but like you couldn’t spare Jushin “Thunder” Liger?
Don’t get me wrong, there are great matches on each show. The problem is they are being promoted as New Japan, and that’s simply not true. This is “ALL IN was self-funded by Cody Rhodes and The Young Bucks” levels of untrue.
Hell, much like ALL IN, these are basically ROH cards (with less ROH talent). I love Ring Of Honor, but they need to focus more on their own product and less on partnerships that are doing nothing but hurting them in the end.