Jon Moxley has been providing some talking points for the IWC. Rob goes over the newest bit of information about the sufferin succotash line.
We’re still feeling the fallout from Jon Moxley’s post-WWE interview tour, and while so many people are still ripping Vince McMahon and also Brock Lesnar, I thought I’d address a different topic, one that is really burning me up. It has to do with that newfound evil that we only knew about for over a decade, the scripted promo. In particular I’m thinking of a line from a scripted promo that has lived in infamy for way too long. Actually it’s not a line it’s just two words: Suffering Succotash. Those two words have been a thorn in the side of Roman Reigns ever since he uttered them on TV, but now it seems that some of the wonderful wrestling fans out there have decided it’s time to forgive him for saying them. And that makes me want to puke because they’re about four years too late, and think way too highly of themselves in the first place. I mean seriously any response to this newfound epiphany other than ‘go play in traffic’ (I’m keeping it PG here) is letting these folks off easy.
The sad reality is that for four years, FOUR YEARS, the Roman Reigns bashing section of Wrestling Fans have used this one line from one promo as a sticking point. A line that he did not come up with, that we knew the entire time that he did not come up, a line that as silly as it was got a positive reaction from the people in the building, a line that anyone with a functioning brain should know that he didn’t want to say, a line that he did not openly complain about specifically but anyone with a functioning brain would have known he was thinking of when he said on Talk is Jericho that he didn’t like a lot of his early promo stuff when he first went solo. Oh, and lastly a line that most of us didn’t even remember him saying until these morons insisted on bringing it up over and over and over. It is a professional wrestling show for crying out loud; there is no shortage of lines spoken by the people on that show that were silly, preposterous, and downright absurd. A man once uttered the words Poontang Pie on this same show with a straight face and we had no issue with it. There was a skit on this same show where a man said the words choppy your pee pee, without a hint of irony. There was a man on this same show who used the nickname Mr. Ass. I’m sorry if you think Sufferin Succotash is worthy of four years of ridicule while choppy your pee pee never earned so much as one comment from you then you’re either biased, an idiot, or both. And if you got a problem with that then I’m not hard to find on Twitter so come at me until you say something that makes me block you.
But that’s not the only reason I’m mad about this. The other reason is that only now after Jon tells us Roman didn’t like saying it do some of you pretend to feel some sympathy for him here. Now because Jon ripped the creative process in WWE and validated a lot of your normally incoherent complaining you’re saying that ‘man, we gave Roman a hard time and it wasn’t his fault’. Man, if you don’t get the f@#! outta with here that BS…… We’ve known for a long time that WWE has writers who script promos, and that Vince gives final approval.. WE KNEW. We knew Roman didn’t like a lot of his early stuff because HE SAID SO HIMSELF, and it doesn’t take half a brain to figure out that ‘Sufferin Succotash’ was a part of that. What, you’re too stupid to put two and two together? Is that what you’re saying? Well I happen to think that some of you are, but even with that I’m willing to bet that most of you knew that or had some idea but you didn’t give a damn because you were too busy being mad on the internet because of some stupid crap that that crybaby quitter CM Punk said on a podcast that’s been echoed by every clickbait artist ever since. You made an issue of of it for four years because you wanted to, and the only reason you’re feigning sympathy now is because the internet cool kid of the moment mentioned it during his airing of grievances against the great Satan Vince McMahon.
But if that’s not enough, there’s a new justification for why some of waited so long to absolve him of the crime of saying a line in the script on TV:
I hardly think it's a matter of him coming up with it, as opposed to him just going along with it with no resistance. It greatly hindered him
— Sean Ross Sapp of Fightful.com (@SeanRossSapp) June 4, 2019
So, it’s not that he came up with it but that he went along with no resistance…..give me a break, alright? We know he thought it was silly but now you expect him and I’m assuming everyone else to go out there and die on the hill every time they’re given a line that they think is silly or dumb or whatever. Sure thing, buddy. You know maybe he thought yeah this is silly, but it’s just one line so who cares anyway? Maybe he expected those of us watching to hear it, laugh at it, then forget about it by the next week…..which most of us managed to do by the way. I seriously doubt that he expected you clowns to still be bringing it up FOUR YEARS LATER. I know it’s all the rage to crap on everything Vince comes up now and to hope for a full talent revolt (never mind that Jon said there were plenty of people happy there but hey, let’s not take away from the fun right?) so that everyone can finally get to say what they want (you know, other than the people who already get to do that because they found a way to say what they want in a way that Vince approves of) but you guys sound like some straight up keyboard warriors telling other people who they need to stand up to. Man, please. Stop moving the goalposts already.
Now if I wanted to really get deep I’d say what this kinda thing reminds me of (and I know some of you reading this can figure out what I’m saying without a long explanation), but for now I’ll just say stop being phony because you’re not fooling anybody. You want to boo the man, or get mad about him showing up on your TV too much or whatever, just go on and do it. You’re not fooling anybody. And if you honestly don’t hate the guy but just now are figuring out that he’s a likeable, personable dude…..there’s a reason that a lot of people who weren’t complaining about him gravitated towards him and supported him all this time, and it’s not the one you’re thinking. I mean, some of us have been to house shows, some of us have been to meet and greets or photo ops, or have watched or listened to interviews and have seen the man be plenty likeable and personable. It’s not like it’s a state secret or anything. Pay attention, do your homework like you do when you want to pick something apart, and most importantly just be honest with yourself, ok? Either you just don’t like the man or you let other people make up your mind for you. Let’s just do everybody a favor and call it what it is.
Until next week everyone
King’s Greatest Hits Of Jeff Hardy
As he battles his demons, Chris King looks at some more positive moments in Jeff Hardy’s career!
I’m sure by now you’ve heard the disturbing news that former WWE superstar and recent AEW signee Jeff Hardy, was arrested again for multiple charges including a DUI. Hardy has had a hard and tragic road of recovery throughout the years in multiple wrestling promotions.
Not too long ago, Hardy walked out on WWE after they were rumored to have offered the former world champion to go to treatment for his substance abuse issues. Hardy refused and said that he was better but, as we saw the demons are still lurking and got the best of him again.
I have seen some nasty comments and even some distasteful memes about the AEW superstar and felt compelled to go against the grain. Instead of kicking a man when he’s down, I’m going to put together a greatest hits for the “Charismatic Enigma.”
Jeff Hardy & The TLC Match
Everyone can say that Shawn Michaels and Razor Ramon helped innovate the iconic ladder match and you are right, but Jeff Hardy and his death-defying stunts changed the concept of the match forever. The Hardy Boyz vs. The Dudley Boyz vs. Edge & Christian and their iconic TLC match should have their wing in the Hall of Fame. The risks all six superstars took for the adoration of the crowd could have ended all of their illustrious careers. In the words of Vince McMahon, It’s such good shit!
Jeff Hardy Earns The Undertaker’s Respect
On the July 1st, 2002 episode of Monday Night Raw, Hardy delivered the performance of a lifetime nearly winning the WWE Undisputed Championship from The Undertaker in an incredible ladder match. The young up-and-comer was faced with his greatest task yet, challenging for the most prestigious title in sports entertainment. Hardy showed that without a shadow of a doubt he deserved to be in the main event scene, but came within minutes of defeating Taker. At the time of the match, Hardy was still finding his footing as a singles competitor and earned the respect of the champion and legend.
Swanton Bomb From The Heavens
When I think of the daredevil Jeff Hardy, I can’t help but think of this one crazy-as-hell stunt. At WWE One Night Stand 2008, Hardy faced off against the juggernaut Umaga in a falls count anywhere match. This match was so insane as both superstars fought into the parking lot. Hardy is one of the craziest and bravest superstars, hit a Swanton Bomb off a damn stage truck onto Umaga. It’s one of the wildest things you’ll ever see.
Hardy Wins The WWE Championship
In 2008, Hardy finally made his way to the main event title picture alongside partner Triple H. HHH was Hardy’s mentor in some sort of way which led to the daredevil achieving his lifelong dream of becoming WWE champion. At the 2008 Armageddon pay-per-view, Hardy would face HHH and longtime rival Edge in a triple-threat match for the title. In what was a great match between all three superstars, Hardy delivered a Swanton Bomb to Edge to win the illustrious championship.
Straight Edge Problems For Hardy
The following year, Hardy found himself in the way of young-up-and-comer CM Punk who is looking to make an example out of him. Punk had won the Money in the Bank briefcase for the second year in a row and took advantage of Hardy to win the world title. What started as mutual respect between both superstars changed drastically, when Punk started throwing jabs at Hardy for his drug and substance abuse real-life issues. Punk would form his infamous stable known as the Straight Edge Society. This is a very underrated feud and you should go back and watch it in its entirety. The promos are gold.
The Hardy Boyz Return To WWE
Both Matt and Jeff Hardy found success in multiple other wrestling promotions including Ring of Honor, and TNA during their time away from WWE. Both brothers were struggling with their vices and made poor life choices but straightened up their act over the years. In 2017, the Hardy Boyz would face longtime rivals The Young Bucks in ROH. The following night the adored tag team would make their incredible return to WWE at WrestleMania 33. Matt and Jeff would be named the final team in the Fatal 4-way ladder match for the Raw Tag Team Championships. The pop these two received was insane and very much deserved. They would go on to win the match and win the titles to capitalize on their momentum.
Jeffery Nero Hardy Makes AEW Debut
From 2017-to 2022 Jeff Hardy would find himself pigeonholed in the mid-card title picture. He would have feuds with a plethora of superstars including Samoa Joe, and Randy Orton. Orton and Hardy had a nasty Hell in a Cell match back in 2018. Earlier this year, Hardy was seen running around after the 24/7 Championship, which was disappointing to see. After being genuinely unhappy in WWE, Hardy would make his AEW debut on the March 9th episode of AEW Dynamite. Hardy would come to the aid of his brother and longtime partner.
This week news broke that Hardy had been arrested for multiple charges including a DUI. While it’s easy to beat a man while he’s down, how about we uplift and try to encourage him to get the help he needs.
As a longtime wrestling fan, I have the utmost respect for Hardy and wish him the best of luck in his battle with addiction.
DeMarco’s Things I Learned From WWE Smackdown On FOX (June 17, 2022)
Greg DeMarco presents what he learned watching WWE Smackdown On FOX for June 17, 2022, featuring Matt Riddle, Vince McMahon, Pat McAfee, and more!
Greg DeMarco presents what he learned watching WWE Smackdown On FOX for June 17, 2022, featuring Matt Riddle, Vince McMahon, Pat McAfee, and more!
WWE presented Smackdown on Friday night, June 17, 2022, from “Moneyapolis” featuring the “big fight feel” main event between Roman Reigns and Matt Riddle, with The Tribal Chief’s Undisputed WWE Universal Championship on the line. We also continued down the road to Money In The Bank in Vegas.
RK-Bro Is Effectively Done
The video package and all of Matt Riddle’s tributes to Randy Orton are just a little bit too much. Riddle does “too much” very well–in fact, it’s his character. But the amount of tribute being played to Randy Orton seems to be a set-up for Orton’s eventual return (whenever that might be) OPPOSITE Riddle. Maybe it’s in the Royal Rumble, maybe after.
Regardless of how it happens (and much of that has to do with his surgery and rehabilitation process), I think we are closer than ever to a heel Randy Orton opposing the babyface Matt Riddle.
Madcap Moss Is Undeniably Over
“Madcap just might be a guy.” – Pat McAfee
Pat McAfee knows what he’s talking about on this one–Madcap is indeed a guy. Riddick Moss always had the tools, just had injury issues. Since making his return to competition as Baron “Happy” Corbin’s sidekick, all Moss has done is prove his worth to WWE. He’s got a good look. He can cut a good promo. He’s vastly a underrated in-ring storyteller. And above all else, he has “it.”
WWE is always looking to add to the main event rotation, but it seems harder to crack that right now. But Madcap Moss has what it takes to do just that.
Montez Ford Is Gonna Be A (Solo) Star
The Street Profits are a fantastic act, and are insanely over. But Montez is a guy–a guy who the company can build around. While I feel bad for Angelo Dawkins, I (along with so many others) see Ford being a solo star.
We’re Getting Baron Corbin vs. Pat McAfee At SummerSlam
It’s the perfect set-up:
- Baron Corbin is highly regarded within the organization as one of the safest workers around, a point that has been made by Randy Orton himself.
- Pat McAfee is a big-moment superstar, and SummerSlam is the moment for him.
And for the record, I love it. While I an a big time purveyor of “Baron Corbin Sucks,” I know what he can do in the ring. And him vs. Pat McAfee would have Nashville rocking–and that is what McAfee in the ring is all about.
Vince McMahon Is Literally A Man Of Steel
If you have listened to any of Bruce Prichard’s podcasts, you know Vince McMahon believes you “don’t sell.” Not in the ring, but whenever the world has turned against you in any way–including lawsuits and investigations–you don’t sell it. You hold your head high, and live above it all.
That’s exactly what the boss did when opening up WWE Smackdown On FOX. It’s entirely possible that the plan changed along the way, and we were going to get “Mr. McMahon” at some point–but what happened is trademark Vince. Not the character, but the man. And if we expected anything else, we haven’t been paying attention.
Matt Riddle Is Now A Made Man
Matt Riddle and Roman Reigns delivered a pay per view (or premium live event…pick your poison) quality main event on WWE Smackdown on FOX, on a night where the world was likely watching. Tonight was his moment, and even in a loss, he delivered.
With a singular world champion–and one who likely isn’t losing anytime soon–it’s hard to say when Riddle could become a world champ. But the stipulation added to tonight’s match (which wasn’t discussed enough on air) means that Matt Riddle now cannot challenge Roman Reigns again (that’s how the graphic showed it). That screams a Money In The Bank or Royal Rumble win to me.
It’s also highly possible that a Seth Rollins wins the Money In The Bank briefcase, and his cash in splits the titles back up, opening the door for Riddle come next spring.
Either way–one fact remains true: Matt Riddle is now a made man, and doing it on his own.
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