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WWE Then Now Forever 11/9/2020: Raw Continues To Struggle

Josh from Thirteen | 10 looks back at an up and down week in WWE as NXT and Smackdown progress and Raw continues to struggle.

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Josh from Thirteen | 10 looks back at an up and down week in WWE as NXT and Smackdown progress and Raw continues to struggle.

Each week Josh from the Thirteen 10 brand has your look at all things WWE Raw, Smackdown, and of course NXT. Take a look at what happened on all three shows, and what will happen in the week ahead. Let’s dive in to see what our respective Red, Yellow, and Blue brands had to offer this week.


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WWE Monday Night RAW Results

  • Jeff Hardy defeated Elias in a Guitar On A Pole match
  • Nia Jax & Shayna Baszler (c) defeated Dana Brooke & Mandy Rose to retain the WWE Women’s Tag Team Championship
  • Bobby Lashley defeated R-Truth
  • Drew Gulak defeated R-Truth (c) to win the WWE 24-7 Championship
  • Braun Strowman defeated Sheamus and Keith Lee in a Triple Threat Team Raw Survivor Series Qualifying Match
  • Nia Jax (w/ Shayna Baszler) defeated Lana
  • The Hurt Business (Cedric Alexander & Shelton Benjamin) defeated The New Day (Kofi Kingston & Xavier Woods)
  • Ricochet defeated Tucker
  • Drew McIntyre defeated The Miz & John Morrison in a Two On One Handicap Match

WWE Monday Night Raw HOT or NOT

  • Hurt Business continued domination and potential hunt for tag gold – HOT
  • Men’s Team RAW looks unstoppable but will it be a cohesive unit, AJ Styles – HOT
  • Oh Tucker, Poor Tucker – NOT
  • Misuse of Ricochet or is this a super slow build? – NOT
  • Drew McIntyre being even more hungry in the chase – HOT
  • Bray & Alexa in the hunt, potential dual champions in 2021 – HOT

Projection for next week’s WWE Monday Night Raw

The Build for Survivor Series with brand war is always going to be quick and easy but I cannot help but feel that if COVID wasn’t a major factor then we would have brand warfare on the build up but due to body count then we just cannot be given that so WWE are having to work with the bare bones of bland story telling and that I can appreciate. Its a really tough spot for RAW right now but there are undoubted highlights. Orton has become the prey and its interesting to see who causes him the most grief each week. The Endgame is clearly Edge who could win the rumble in January but for now its 3 men who will terrorise him on a weekly basis. Will he drop the gold via cash in at Survivor series? Miz needs to win more matches than he loses to have a real shot. Next week the Hurt Business will look for all the gold and put more pressure on The New day as tag champs. Can Ricochet build momentum. Lets at let’s try and look forward to next week shall we?!


WWE NXT

WWE NXT Results

  • Dakota Kai (w/ Raquel González) defeated Ember Moon
  • Kushida defeated Cameron Grimes
  • Ever-Rise (Chase Parker & Matt Martel) vs. Drake Maverick & Killian Dain ended in a No Contest
  • Toni Storm defeated Shotzi Blackheart
  • Tommaso Ciampa defeated The Velveteen Dream

WWE NXT HOT or NOT

  • The Kai/Moon feed feels like its just beginning and Gonzalez is money – HOT
  • Kushida building momentum, next challenger to Balor when he returns? – HOT
  • Shotzi continues to shine – HOT
  • Is Toni Storm building for a title match – HOT
  • Ciampa & Dream feel stuck at the minute and its a shame – NOT
  • UE/ Mcafee feed will surely culminate at a TAKEOVER, THIS IS AMAZING – HOT

Projecting next week’s WWE NXT

We will surely see the return of UE members very soon as a December 6th stand alone Takeover looms. If WarGames is going to be a thing then this is going to be electric. Im not sure what to make of Ciampa right now, if Balor cannot compete and defend the gold soon could Ciampa be the next transitional champion? A feud with Kushida over the strap would make sense and Kross can return next year to dethrone Ciampa. Shotzi feels like she could cary the gold but Toni Storm seems front of the line. IO vs Storm at Takeover is a money match. Lets continue the build to a takeover that is yet to be announced but the card is becoming increasingly obvious in a delightful way.


WWE Smackdown on FOX

WWE Smackdown On FOX Results

  • Sasha Banks (c) defeated Bayley to retain the WWE SmackDown Women’s Championship
  • King Corbin defeated Rey Mysterio (w/ Dominik Mysterio) in a Team SmackDown Survivor Series Qualifying Match
  • Ruby Riott defeated Natalya and Zelina Vega in a Triple Threat Team SmackDown Survivor Series Qualifying Match
  • Seth Rollins defeated Otis in a Team SmackDown Survivor Series Qualifying Match
  • Jey Uso defeated Kevin Owens

WWE Smackdown on FOX HOT or NOT

  • Sasha & Bayley could fight every day and it wouldn’t get boring, insane stuff – HOT
  • Mysterio/Rollins/Murphy is becoming repetitive and tiresome as well as confusing – NOT
  • Ruby Riott will get to shine at SS – HOT
  • Otis is going to get lost in the shuffle – Mixed Bag
  • Kevin Owens misuse is baffling – NOT
  • Jey Uso being owned by Roman Reigns continues to be the best showing on either Raw or Smackdown – HOT

Projecting Next Week’s WWE Smackdown on FOX

As with RAW, Survivor Series looms and team blue is shaping up nicely but feels like it cannot beat the mens RAW team at current. This is setup for Jey Uso to be the sole survivor though. Lets see more of an aggressive side to Owens as he suffers from 50/50 booking. We need answers from Murphy next week as I’m getting confused. Perhaps Murphy vs Mysterio is on the cards with Aliyah finally choosing family and ending this abysmal story.

Overall Impression of the week in WWE

All in all NXT was the better show this week, Smackdown has a great top of card but the mid to lower has no real punch. RAW seems like its struggling still and I’m not sure where the obvious fix is.


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Bodeen’s Top 5 Moments: WWE RAW 3/1/21

Bodeen takes a look ath the Top 5 moments from an eventful episode of WWE Raw on the Road to WrestleMania!

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Bodeen takes a look ath the Top 5 moments from an eventful episode of WWE Raw on the Road to WrestleMania!

With just 6 short weeks left until WrestleMania, RAW once again came to us from the Thunderdome, with the main story on RAW this week being focused on the WWE Championship match between The Miz and Bobby Lashley. Despite this there were still some other moments on RAW that stood out, so without further ado let’s once again look at the top 5 moments that stood out on RAW.

5. Mustafa Ali pins Riddle

There is no denying that the booking of RETRIBUTION has been botched. While it was extremely interesting to watch Retribiution at first, Retribution soon died even after Mustafa Ali turned heel mainly due to terrible logical booking and a series of losses that made them all look weak.

However, it is still nice to see RETRIBUTION get wins back, especially when it comes to their leader, Mustafa Ali. Ali is extremely talented and has shown he can perform with the best in the ring. That is why it was so great to see him beat Riddle on RAW.

While the match between the two men was nothing special and had a bad-looking finish, it was still nice to see him beat the United States Champion in a non-title match and give RETRIBUTION and himself a small amount of credit back.

4. Miz makes Bobby Lashley wait

Over the years The Miz has grown to be one of the best heels in the business, his promos are amazing to watch and over the years Miz has learned to control any crowd as a heel. Miz’s promos though are not the only thing that has helped him as a heel, as we have seen Miz over the years use brilliant strategies to give himself an advantage in the ring.

Miz would once again use his mind this week on RAW as he used excuse after excuse throughout the night to avoid defending the WWE Championship against Bobby Lashley until eventually, Shane McMahon forced him to defend or vacate the title at the end of the night.

The great part about watching this was seeing the reaction from MVP and Bobby Lashley as they grew increasingly frustrated with The Miz and his ideas as their annoyance at the start of the night turned into a pure rage after Miz retained after being counted out.

3. Damian Priest gets another win 

At first, I was somewhat worried about Damian Priest being teamed up with Bad Bunny, mainly due to the fact it feels Priest deserved more. However, after a few weeks and seeing how much merchandise Bad Bunny has been selling, the relationship between the two men can be effective for Priest especially as Bad Bunny guarantees Priest time on RAW, where he can impress fans.

Priest would once again look good on RAW this week as he pinned Elias in a solid match between the two men. It was also nice to see Priest beat Elias without any major interference from Bad Bunny, as Priest has arguably looked somewhat weaker due to the distractions from Bad Bunny in his matches.

With there being a good chance that Bad Bunny will be on WrestleMania with Preist, it will be interesting to see what will happen to Priest after WrestleMania

2.  Drew Mcintyre and Sheamus destroy each other

While this may not off been on a Pay-Per-View, Drew McIntyre and Sheamus put on an amazing match between each other and easily put on the best match of the night. The match showcased the brutal style of the two men as they traded moves with both men working extremely well together.

The match would start with an intense brawl between the two men as they gave each other a beating. After a brutal match where both men push each other to their limit, Drew McIntyre would catch Sheamus with a Claymore after Sheamus attempted a Brouge kick to win the match.

After the match, both men stared at each other potentially meaning that this is not the end of their feud as he approach Fastlane.

1. Bobby Lashley finally wins the gold 

It is hard to believe how much Bobby Lashley’s career has changed in a year. This time last year, Bobby was stuck in a never-ending feud with Lana and Rusev which had lost all credibility. Then Bobby Lashley left Lana for MVP and started The Hurt Business, where he became a dominant part of the mid-card as the United States Champion.

Even after being a dominant mid-carder for so long Lashley still hadn’t reached that next level however Bobby would finally break through the glass ceiling this week on RAW after he waited for three hours to dominate The Miz to finally become WWE Champion after what has felt like an eternity.

With Bobby now Champion the big question is, will Lashley be Champion by WrestleMania and if so, who will Lashley face?

These were my top 5 moments from RAW this week. What were your top 5 moments and what do you think of Bobby Lashley being WWE Champion? Let us know in the comments below. 


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Andrew’s Top 5 Matches: Week Ending 2/28/2021

A weird week of matches and shows! Let’s see what made the Top 5!

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This is one of the more tame weeks. New Japan had a few big events, but let’s just say it wasn’t their best work. Then we get the announcement of combining the Intercontinental and Heavyweight to become a “world heavyweight” title, so yeah, New Japan is weird right now.

Speaking of weird, AEW Dynamite: Riho vs Serena Deeb, won the match vote last week.

This will be the voting week to round out February, and we should start March off strong with what’s coming next week!

Quick Top 5:

  1. NJPW Castle Attack 2.27: Jay White vs Tomohiro Ishii
    Rating: ****
  2. NJPW Castle Attack 2.28: IWGP Intercontinental Championship: Tetsuya Naito vs Kota Ibushi (c)
    Rating: *** ¾
  3. AEW Dynamite: Lance Archer vs Rey Fenix
    Rating: *** ¾
  4. NJPW Castle Attack 2.28: IWGP Junior Heavyweight Championship: BUSHI vs El Desperado vs El Phantasmo
    Rating: *** ¾
  5. AEW Dynamite: Hangman Page vs Isaiah Kassidy
    Rating: *** ½

 

Honorable Mentions:

  • NJPW Castle Attack 2.27: Kazuchika Okada vs EVIL w/Dick Togo
    Rating: *** ¼
  • NJPW Strong: IWGP United States Championship: Jon Moxley (c) vs KENTA
    Rating: *** ¼
  • IMPACT!: Chris Bey, Ace Austin & Black Taurus vs Josh Alexander, Trey Miguel & Willie Mack
    Rating: *** ¼
  • NJPW Castle Attack 2.28: TenCozy (Satoshi Kojima & Hiroyoshi Tenzan) vs The United Empire (Jeff Cobb & Will Ospreay)
    Rating: *** ¼
  • NXT: Zoey Stark vs Io Shirai
    Rating: *** ¼
  • NJPW Castle Attack 2.28: NEVER Openweight Championship: Hiroshi Tanahashi (c) vs The Great O-Khan
    Rating: *** ¼
  • WWE Raw: Bobby Lashley vs Braun Strowman
    Rating: ***
  • NXT: No DQ: Santos Escobar vs Karrion Kross
    Rating: ***
  • IMPACT!: TNA World Heavyweight Championship: Moose vs Jake Something
    Rating: ***
  • WWE Raw: Angel Garza vs Damian Priest
    Rating: ***

5. AEW Dynamite: Hangman Page vs Isaiah Kassidy

From Mitchell’s Coverage:

Kassidy runs, but Hangman follows! Kassidy leaps, into a DEATH VALLEY DRIVER! Both men are down and fans are fired up! The standing count begins, the fans rally up, and both men stand at 3. Hangman runs in at Kassidy to corner clothesline him! Hangman snapmares Kassidy, runs and SLIDING- NO! Kassidy dodges, mule kicks and CHOPS! Kassidy reels Hangman in but Hangman suplexes to BRAIN BUSTER! Cover, TWO!!! Kassidy lives and “This is Awesome!” Hangman and Kassidy slowly stir. Hangman aims from a corner, runs at Kassidy, but Kassidy blocks the boot to BOOT back! And enziguri, to a POISON-RANA! Cover, TWO!?!

But Kassidy has the arm for an ARMBAR! Hangman endures as Kassidy pulls back! Hangman sits up, and gets the ropebreak! Kassidy lets go at the ref’s count of 4, and Hangman drags himself away. Kassidy gets up, runs over, but Hangman FLIPS him out to the apron! Kassidy grabs at Hangman’s arm but Hangman BOOTS him from below! Hangman runs to triangle LAR- HOT SHOT!! Kassidy counters Hangman at the right time, slithers back up to the apron, and springboards, but no Destroyer! Hangman gives him the DEADEYE! Cover, Hangman wins!!

Winner: Hangman via Deadeye

 

2t. NJPW Castle Attack 2.28: IWGP Junior Heavyweight Championship: BUSHI vs El Desperado vs El Phantasmo

From My Results:

Early on this was a little paint by numbers. Counters, a few signature spots to get early advantages, but the match didn’t pick up until ELP tried to take out Desperado. ELP and Despy fight up the ramp, ELP rips the mask to expose Despy’s head and pulls out the Jerry Lynn special, Cradle Piledriver right into the ramp!

ELP takes the ripped mask as a trophy, and we see a singles match between BUSHI and ELP for a good bit of time. BUSHI proves to be as stubborn as other Tetsuya’s in LIJ, and takes it to ELP fairly well. BUT – that’s not the story here. Desperado starts slowly making his way back to the ring with a new mask. Desperado comes in and goes on a warpath after ELP. Stiff looking strikes, dives that take out both of his opponents, and just an unbridled rage that makes him focus on ELP.

This of course allows for BUSHI to pick some solid spots, and after Despy returns the match really picks up. It’s also great to ELP’s heel tendencies where he takes moves from higher profile people just to turn the knife. Styles Clash, V-Trigger, an attempted One Winged Angel, Sweet Chin Music, the Undertaker arm fold pin cover, and it’s just good entertainment.

BUSHI has a great count break up where he just grabs Marty Asami’s arm to prevent the 3. BUSHI sets up for MX, but he gets caught with Sudden Death…and rolls out of the ring. So ELP has to go back to a now slowly coming back up Desperado, ELP charges, gets caught with a big right hand and not 1 but 2 Pinche Locos!

Winner: Despy via Pinche Loco

 

2t. AEW Dynamite: Lance Archer vs Rey Fenix

From Mitchell’s Coverage:

Fenix goes to a corner while Archer is in the drop zone. Fenix hops up and MOONSAULTS, but Archer moves, so Fenix somersaults through! ROLLING CUTTER!! Cover, TWO!! Archer survives again and Fenix can’t believe it! Fenix hauls Archer up, Archer whips him away and runs in to ROCK him with a right! Archer puts Fenix up top, hooks legs and brings Fenix out, FISHERMAN BUSTER! Cover, TWO!! Fenix survives again but Archer drags him back up! Archer goes up the corner, drags Fenix up to join him, but Fenix fights the choke grip to adjust! Archer body shots, Fenix rebounds, SUPER SPANISH FLY!! Cover, TWO!?!? How are either of these guys doing this?!

Fenix fireman’s carries, Archer pulls the mask! Fans boo, Fenix SUPERKICKS, mule kicks, forearms and CHOPS! Fenix fires up, runs, but gets DERAILED!! Both men are down but Archer fires up! Archer drags Fenix up and reel shim in, for a BUCKLE BOMB! Choke grip, CHOKE SLAM!! Cover, TWO?!?! Archer drags Fenix to a corner, hauls him up, CHOPS and inverted crucifix lifts, for the BLACKOUT BOMB!!! Cover, Archer wins!!!

Winner: Archer via Blackout

 

2t. NJPW Castle Attack 2.28: IWGP Intercontinental Championship: Tetsuya Naito vs Kota Ibushi (c)

From My Results:

Naito focused on mat wrestling in the beginning, and it was all in effort to get to Ibushi’s knees to bring the match to parity. With Naito having well documented bad knees (including miss time during the Road to), Naito had to work to make things more even.

We see a lot of old threads get pulled on, the corner spot could reference to Naito and Omega’s G1 match, the Outside In German Suplex was something Ibushi struggled to execute before on Naito. Naito pulled out an Avalanche Diamond Dust that we don’t often see, and this was somewhat interesting. New Japan continues to implore that main events are 25+ minute matches, and lately these all drag.

Even with the fun story aspects, a few big scary spots as we’ve come to expect, the match never ascended to a great height. Naito hit Valentia and a few running Destinos, but that wasn’t enough to take out the champion. Ibushi hit Kamigoye to the back of the head, much like as Wrestle Kingdom, then we got 2 more Kamigoyes and Ibushi just falling on top of Naito for the pinfall victory!

Winner: Ibushi via Kamigoye

 

1. NJPW Castle Attack 2.27: Jay White vs Tomohiro Ishii

From My Results:

Ishii has had White’s number lately, and just added to the broken status of his mental health after the Wrestle Kingdom loss. Within the first minute or so, Jay looked to have tweaked his hamstring, and that added an interesting layer to his early attack. But much like the strategic genius that he is, he lays Ishii over the barricade, and Ishii starts selling a rib injury.

Everything in this match mattered, the leg and ribs came back to play into aspects of the finishing sequence. Ishii was slow transitioning between some of his power moves since he was hampered with the rib injury, and Jay got caught a bit more than usual because his quickness was taken away.

A huge Avalanche Brainbuster after a Jumping Headbutt nearly gave Ishii the win, but a slow cover as he wanted the high stack, kept Jay alive. They fight back and forth, then we get a great counter wrestling sequence to finish the match. Ishii slips suplexes and Blade Runners, Jay slips the Brainbuster and eats a strike. It was up, down, back and forth, just hard to call until Jay finally slips a hold and catches Ishii with Blade Runner for the win!

Winner: Jay via Blade Runner

 

Thoughts:

Definitely a weird week when I was not a fan of the New Japan shows, and I’m not AEW’s biggest fan…but I guess the top stuff is the top stuff. My vote will go to Jay White vs Tomohiro Ishii, purely because it was the only thing that really stood out during this weekend.

Personally, I hope New Japan figures it out and starts getting interesting; because I’m really going to need to consider other promotions if New Japan stays stale – you know, just to spice things up. Ugh…weird week, but yeah the White vs Ishii match is worth watching.


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