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All Elite Wrestling YouTube: Dyanmite In the Light and After Dark

Tiffany checks in with your coverage of AEW Being The Elite and AEW DARK featuring four matches recorded around the debut edition of Dynamite.

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Tiffany checks in with your coverage of AEW Being The Elite and AEW DARK featuring four matches recorded around the debut edition of Dynamite.

How did the Elites cope with the premiere of Dynamite given Kenny’s state of mind? Also, what is up with Hangman Page and Dustin Rhodes?

Also, see what happens in the ring after the cameras stop running on AEW Dark!

Being the Elite Episode 173 – Dy-No-MITE!

Yeah, it’s cheesy. No, I’m not sorry.

It is Zero Hour in the world of the Elites! We are at the premiere of AEW Dyanamite!

I really appreciate the Young Bucks being more than a little apprehensive about Kenny Omega’s mental well-being since Omega seems to be firmly in Denial Land. However, we did learn that AEW’s contract with TNT is for four years. I’m not sure if that’s a good thing or a bad thing, but Omega seems very confident and not like he’s spent the last few episodes in a funk over his loss at All Out. Keep sailing up the river, Kenny. Also, shout out to the Bucks for not letting him get by with stuff.

Of course the whole facade crumbles like a DIY wall once the Bucks are out of the picture, and shows us that Omega is still the conductor of the Crazy Train and it’s getting weird on this ride. Omega looked almost psychotic or possessed.

Love the montage of the Elite’s journey from doing really cheap shows on YouTube to now. They’ve had quite a journey, let’s watch them savor the fruits of victory.

Love the trucks, not the lighting. Poor Matt not wanting to show off the Young Bucks shirt that Nick designed and trying to use his credentials as an excuse and Nick giving absolutely no fucks. Guess the weird ass red and yellow lighting is Matt’s way of hiding the design.

Okay, I do not like Orange Cassidy. There’s something about his gimmick that annoys me. He acts like a poser. Not interested. Doesn’t look like the Bucks were interested either, since he invaded their locker room.

How old is Marko Stunt? He looks like some teenage kid Jungle Boy and Luchasaurus picked up at a Meet and Greet and acts like one too. Love Frankie Kazarian bitching about ‘Hot Stuff’, which I’m guessing is BTE’s version of Axe Body Spray. Don’t love him being a douche to Stunt.

More Jay and Silent Bob! This segment with Joey Janela was fabulous and so was this segment with Luchasaurus and Jungle Boy!

The Librarians are annoying, but at least they’re leaning in to the gimmick, or Leva Bates is, anyway. Blue Hair actually went to the Library of Congress. I think Peter Avalon is either getting fed up with the gimmick or he’s legit annoyed Blue Hair went without him.

Boy, Matt Jackson is SUPER clumsy. How the hell did he managed to spill a WHOLE pot of  coffee on the lovely shirt Nick made for him? Never fear, Nick brought more! LOL. Poor Matt. Maybe try getting mauled by a bear next time.

MJF is SO obnoxious! I like that the Bucks don’t like him and the feeling is mutual. I’m still not sure I can buy MJF as a top tier heel because he’s so annoying, especially about his scarfs. Poor Matt is going to snap if anyone else makes him model their merchandise.

Finally, some REAL behind the scenes stuff. Matt saying Riho and Nyla Rose are stealing show made me smile. Also, loving Omega being so focused on how Riho is handling Nyla. There’s been some rumors swirling around these two and whether they’re true or not, it was sweet to see.

It interesting to hear the show being timed. I know it’s done all the time, but it was cool to hear them time the show out. I’m also starting to buy those Omega/Riho rumors after that spontaneous hug.

Whoop, who is that a lurking about? Could that be the returning Jon Moxley about to open a can of whoop ass on Kenny Omega? I think it is!

I believe the ‘Holy Shit!’ reaction to the Mox Paradigm Shift to Omega through the glass coffee table is Cody. It sounded like him, anyway, but it could’ve been Tony Khan. Out goes Dustin Rhodes, in comes Jack Hager and the fits hit the shan.

Hangman Page didn’t come out to help because he was in the locker room with the rest of the talent? They don’t have TVs in there? OH, there’s trouble between Page and the Bucks. He’s shut them out and they aren’t happy. Loved Dustin pointing out that he went out there and he’s not part of The Elite, basically with a ‘What’s your excuse again?’ kind of deal. So that’s how we got Dustin Rhodes and Hangman Page vs Jericho and Sammy Guevara for Wednesday.

Okay, DEFINITELY buying those Omega/Riho rumors now with this mid-credit scene. Bucks being fed up with Kenny’s shit is so realistic and heartbreaking. I’m not going to hold my breath that Omega won’t show up on Wednesday, but they seem to be writing him off TV for a few weeks, not sure why.

AEW Dark – Episode 1 – Lights Out

Darby Allin vs Cima

This was an amazing match! I’m not really familiar with Cima, but he’s a hell of a competitor. He and Allin tore each other apart. I will say I wish Allin would quit doing that coffin drop or his back will never forgive him. I’m not surprised Allin won since he’s in a #1 Contender’s match this week, but I wasn’t expecting the match to be that good. Hope Cima sticks around.

Angelico, Jack Evans and Lucha Brothers  vs Best Friends and Private Party

Apparently, this was meant to be a teaser match for the Tag Team Tournament starting on Wednesday. Orange Cassidy was also with the Best Friends. One of the guys in Best Friends looks like a AJ Styles rip off.

The match was really good, but it was pretty much to get the audience hyped for the tag tournament. The real stand out was Hype Duo (Angelico and Evans), who were the only ones not in the actual tag tournament and they were intent on taking out their frustration on whoever they had their hands on, specifically Private Party.

Orange Cassidy tried to stick up for his bros but paid for it, which was funny. Lucha Brothers were easily the best part of the show and picked up the win for their team. Also, they kicked out Hype Duo so they could celebrate along since HB wasn’t part of the pin sequence. Bring on the tournament.

Britt Baker and Allie vs Bea Priestley and Penelope Ford

Of the four women in this match, Ford is the only one I haven’t watched before, which should be interesting.

To be honest, the match should’ve been Britt Baker vs Bea Priestley, but they needed to show Allie and Ford too. The match was pretty good, it was nice to see Allie show her wrestling skills, but she and Ford were buffers for Baker and Priestley, which promises to be a FANTASTIC non-title feud in the Women’s Division. However, all four woman did a great job and it makes me feel really good about the AEW Women’s Division.

SCU vs Jurassic Express

Okay, the effect of having the camera shake when Luchasaurus comes out is cool AF. Marko Stunt still looks like a fan Luchasaurus and Jungle Boy picked up from the crowd. SCU’s entrance is still obnoxious.

The match was okay. It was another ‘Hype the tournament match’, but it was fun. Luchasaurus is amazing to watch. SCU got the win but Jurassic Express looked amazing, so everyone won.

That’s it for Tiffany’s All Elite Wrestling on YouTube Takes! Tune in tomorrow for more All Elite Wrestling coverage.

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Our Chairshot Take – Releases, Forbidden Door, Women’s Wrestling, LFG, and The Bloodline

Welcome to Our Chairshot Take! This week, 5 of your favorite contributors answer questions about the WWE releases, the Forbidden Door alliance, women main eventing WrestleMania, wrestling competition shows, and The Bloodline!

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Welcome to a new weekly wrestling column featuring some of your favorite Chairshot contributors (and some outside of Chairshot as well) – Our Chairshot Take! Every week, we’ll have 5 contributors answer 5 of the most interesting, intriguing, and relevant questions that you want answers too. Please, feel free to tell us why we’re right or wrong, and most importantly, let us know YOUR take!  And don’t forget, #AlwaysUseYourHead!

 

How do you think professional wrestling companies should handle releases?

 

Greg: It’s hard, because personally I don’t know how they could do it any better. It’s the wrestling media who jumps on the news–and they’re just doing their job. As Booker T says, don’t hate the playa, hate the game. For wrestling news, that’s the game. Plus, some talents are going to tell the media, and that’s their prerogative.

 

So instead, I offer you some other solutions:

 

Come up with a longevity threshold where a talent can keep their name. Call it 6 years. We released Apollo Crews? He can go and be Apollo Crews elsewhere. WWE still retains ownership over the name, but they provide him permission to use it. Because, yes, they owned it and developed it, but he made it real. Let him keep it alive, if he chooses to.

 

Guarantee main roster deals for two years. In the case of Aleister Black, it’s easily plausible that 3-6 months from now, we’ll all see a glaring hole that he could have filled. Some things take time to get right. 

 

Finally, leverage that TNA partnership. Keeping with the same example, imagine sending Aleister Black & Zelina Vega to TNA as a shocking surprise. It helps everyone. Work out something where TNA covers a portion of the contract. Elevate the partnership, and rise that tide that raises all ships.

 

Andrew: The way they’re done now is fine. There’s no pomp and circumstance for normal people when they get fired, and some traditional sports stars find out they’re traded or cut because of ESPN. Wrestling ain’t special or fancy. News nowadays is about first out, not moral high ground. Deal with it.

 

Kyle: Unless someone asked for their release, there really isn’t a good way to handle it. Inevitably, there will always be a section of fans who are unhappy with one of their favorite stars being released. That being said, I do think it’s generally good business to grant releases to people who ask for them, and I’m definitely not a fan of adding time onto someone’s contract who no longer wants there just because they may have been injured at some point.

 

Karl: I’ve never been a big fan of the announced releases. I think it brings too much unwanted attention to the employees during an already difficult time. I’m not one to defend a corporate entity either, and it’s no secret that companies fire and hire employees all the time on a daily basis whether for good reasons or bad. That said, I would find it better, or perhaps more palatable that releases are done quietly with little drawn attention. Allow that privacy for the employee being released. If they want to announce that they’ve been let go, that should fall to them, not on wrestling journalists looking for a scoop.

 

Rob: There should be no leaks before the wrestlers themselves are told by the companies. And I’d give people a chance to ask for theirs if they want to leave before we make any roster decisions.

 

Has the Forbidden Door alliance – AEW, CMLL, and New Japan – worked?

 

Greg: For who??? That’s rhetorical, and it’s also the point. AEW’s “strategic partnerships” haven’t benefited anyone other than AEW. Look at New Japan today: struggling. Bouncing the title around to see who sticks. Konosuke Takeshita was a perfect option for IWGP Heavyweight Champion. Didn’t have it long enough to gain traction. Send people out on longer tours, let them truly impact someone else’s business. THAT is how you build a strategic partnership. 

 

Yes, no one from TNA has held a WWE NXT Championship outside of the Hardys. And yes, someone should. Jordynne Grace and Joe Hendry signed with WWE? It was always going to happen. At least TNA got some bump out of it. Guess what? Mike Santana and Leon Slater are gonna sign at some point, too. But their presence in WWE NXT helps TNA.

 

AEW’s partnerships — TNA, New Japan, and CMLL  — have only benefited AEW. And that’s now how this is supposed to work.

 

Andrew: Hahahahahaha, oh, you’re serious? NJPW has become a farm system. Their main event scene has been in tatters and I’ve seen rats leave a sinking ship slower. NJPW went from arguably the second biggest company in the world to a footnote in where a new person comes from to the general audience. Also, AAA has been more relevant in the conversation of wrestling media in the last 6 months, as compared to CMLL in the last 5 years. This Alliance is the Go Bots of pro wrestling. Discount, K-Mart, wannabe super group, that is about as significant as Damnocracy.

 

Kyle: It’s worked out for AEW, but I don’t think it’s really worked for CMLL and especially not for New Japan. I can’t remember the last time that NJPW has been down as bad as they are right now. The “alliance” such as it is essentially functions as a way for AEW to test the reactions that foreign talent receive and decide whether or not to poach them from CMLL or New Japan by throwing money at them.

 

Karl: I don’t particularly follow these companies, but I think the answer is probably somewhere between yes and no. Defining what would make the alliance successful would be the best way to break it down. What were the goals? If the goal was to get a million dream matches on the docket, I think it’s a success. It’s a great way to get wrestling matches you couldn’t always get otherwise. If the goal was some monetary gain or bringing eyes to compete with the big dog on the block, then it’s probably less of a success. So with that, I’d probably say it’s both successful and unsuccessful depending on what your expectations were/are of the idea.

 

Rob: For AEW, absolutely.  They’ve gotten to use people from New Japan for various things.  I don’t know if it’s worked great for New Japan given how many people AEW has signed that were theirs first.  CMLL has gotten to use some AEW talent on their shows so I’d call that a win for them.

 

What will it take for there to be another women’s main event at WrestleMania?

 

Greg: Intent. That’s it. It’s a quick answer. “We put the most deserving match in that spot” is a bullshit cop out. You have the ability to book and showcase the product based on your plans. If you come out of every WrestleMania with the non-negotiable that women will be in the main event of one night of WrestleMania, then you will make it happen. 

 

You build guardrails and parameters to follow. It’s not rocket science. I book my local independent and I have had women in the main event multiple times, and had a woman win our annual Rumble and use that to win our Heavyweight Championship. I made it happen because I had an intentional plan: before, during, and after. And that’s on the indies!

 

It can be done, you just have to want to do it.

 

Andrew: A compelling story and the ability to draw the crowd in. Anyone who thinks workrate matters is a fool. If Gina Carano and Ronda Rousey had their match at Mania instead of a Netflix special, THAT would’ve headlined the show. We are a long way away from any personalities being Earth shattering enough to move a main event needle. Maybe when Bianca Belair comes back from pregnancy, but that depends on her dance partner. 

 

Kyle: It would have to be both the right combination of major stars and a strong story that the crowds are invested in. If anyone on the current roster who’s healthy could pull it off, it’s probably Rhea just because she’s massively over still.

 

Karl: Given the ownership group, a miracle probably. I just don’t think that TKO understands the company they own. This isn’t anything new. We see it time and time again when larger corporations purchase companies just to have more assets on their balance sheet. The quality dips because suits have hijacked what made the product great in the past. Wrestling is no different. That’s not to say that having women main event WrestleMania is the exact thing that makes wrestling great, but the idea that anyone can get to the top, or break down a barrier, especially in sport (scripted or otherwise) is part of what makes entertainment in this format so wonderful. I don’t trust the people in charge to have their finger on the pulse of what makes wrestling great, so therefore, I think even if the women’s stories demanded top billing, they wouldn’t get it anytime soon. I’ll be happy to be wrong.

 

Rob: The men’s side will have to clear out a bit. As long as Roman, Cody, and Punk are still there, forget it. Especially now that Oba will be there as soon as next year and Trick is coming up. Throw in Seth and Randy, and those spots are taken for the foreseeable future. To even get in the conversation though, they have to book some kind of compelling story between two or three women that rivals what the men at the top are doing. That requires treating one or two women as equals to Rhea creatively, even if they aren’t as popular, and not just booking for pops and title wins on big 4 PLEs.

 

Why do you think the winners of wrestling competition shows aren’t usually successful?

 

Greg: The most important word in the phrase “wrestling competition show” is the last one: show. It’s a show first, a true competition later. Pumping out true successful talent isn’t actually it’s job. it’s job is to payoff for whoever is paying for the show. That’s driven by results: viewers and advertising dollars. A&E doesn’t care of Shiloh Hill main events WrestleMania unless it means more financial payoff for their investment in WWE LFG. I do think we are too quick to thrust talent into a primary role after winning. Give them time.

 

For my eyeballs? I’d rather see true reality style coverage, think NFL Hard Knocks, or schools like Cody Rhodes’ Nightmare Factory and Booker T’s Reality of Wrestling. With the WWE machine behind it, it can work. But in the current format, it doesn’t exist to put out TV ready talent–that’s what Evolve and NXT are for.

 

Plus, who is making the decisions in the end? If it’s not Triple H, Bruce Prichard, Michael Hayes, and Tony Khan (for AEW, obviously), then it doesn’t matter who wins.

 

Andrew: Because they aren’t wrestlers. Why aren’t most American Idol winners successful? Talent does not equate to understanding the business you want to be in. We all know of music artists we wish were more well known, but they don’t understand the game well enough to play it. It’s easy to fake it for 8 weeks on camera; it’s another thing to have the determination and resolve to live it 24/7.

 

Kyle: I think most of the competition show winners aren’t successful because the writing team for the competition show and the creative team for the wrestling show usually aren’t the same. Add to that the fact that the winners of these shows are usually rushed to television too soon because the company wants to capitalize on the popularity of the show, and you have a recipe for a lot of winners ending up released sooner rather than later. Arguably the most successful wrestling competition show winner was John Morrison, who won Tough Enough III, and he was given a couple of years to develop in OVW and wasn’t put on TV until he was ready and creative had something for him. Most winners don’t get that opportunity to grow, and thus, they end up failing in the long run.

 

Karl: Much like the winners of American Idol or The Voice don’t typically amount to a hill of beans, I see wrestling competition shows in the same vein. Sure, you’ll have the occasional standout, but it’s just really hard to be consistently great at anything without working at it. On a competition show, you’re all in, all the time, because otherwise you’re going home. But what happens when you win that show? Does the drive stay high? It can be difficult I think, because once you’re in the door, you’re no longer looked at as someone special. You’re now just like everyone else. Or, the flip side, you’re put under the bright lights too quickly and it doesn’t work. Not to mention, there are people in the locker room who have been working their whole life for this thing you achieved in a matter of months. It’s going to naturally devolve into jealousy by your peers. I think competition show winners fall prey to the pressure of sustained success.

 

Rob: Winning the competition isn’t the same as succeeding in the real world. The competition is a closed space and its own entity. Just like how Star Search and American Idol winners are often not the most successful people from their group.

 

Has the Bloodline storyline jumped the shark?

 

Greg: In a word: no.

 

In a few words: absolutely hell the freak not.

 

In more words: do you know what the phrase “jump the shark” actually means? Look it up. It comes from the old TV show Happy Days, where Arthur Fonzarelli, aka “The Fonze” and “Fonzie,” actually jumps over a shark on his motorcycle. After that, the show was never really the same again. Jumping the shark was the moment. That’s what it means.

 

Now circle back to The Bloodline. What’s their “jump the shark” moment? There isn’t one! Are we producing “cinema” like the height of the  Sami Zayn story? No, not at all. But we haven’t jumped the shark. Instead, we’ve evolved. Roman Reigns’ ascension back to the world title saw Jimmy & Jey Uso get slowly infused back into the fold, but what did Roman do after? He said that they now stand together. They are more equal now. There’s no wiseman, there’s no outlier Sami Zayn character, no solo as the right hand man. 

 

It hasn’t jumped the shark, it’s evolved. And I want to see where it goes next.

 

Andrew: Bloodline should’ve been dead when Jacob and Solo split. I don’t think there’s been anything egregious enough to imply it “Jumped the Shark,” as in, a desperation ploy to keep it going. But it’s just outlasted it’s welcome. While Roman will always be my OTC, and I’ve been ride or die with the Werewolf and G.O.D., we can stop dragging it on into perpetuity. Let people go their own ways without a reference every other month, and no more Honorary Usos. That LA Knight shirt was ALMOST a shark jump…but the angle was so insignificant in the grand scheme of things, it didn’t matter enough to even register anywhere near the Island of Relevancy.

 

Kyle: I watched Jacob Fatu put the Tribal Chief in a Tongan Death Grip. You’re not gonna catch me in these streets disrespecting any of the Polynesian wrestlers or their storylines. I don’t want NONE of that smoke.

 

Karl: The Bloodline story is probably running out of juice, for a lot of the same reasons big time storylines run out of juice. There’s not much left to squeeze. There are only so many ways you can take a story. You can try to keep it fresh, and on a smaller scale, you can run into the old nWo problem of too many cooks in the kitchen. The Bloodline ran with a lot of new members, and new introductions. It helped build some of them to important status, but at a certain point, new pathways need to be created for all involved. You can always revisit what made the stories great. I’ve always thought the way the Shield was handled post-break up has been well done. Callbacks here and there to what made them great, to what broke them apart, etc., were always fun ways to remind the fans, but continuing with the angle will always fall flat, especially with how short the attention span of most people can be.

 

Rob: It all depends on whether or not they have some good enemies this year. If they’re just running back all of the bits they did last time then yes. But if they can find some new things to do, then they’ll be fine.

 

Greg – @GregDeMarco44

Andrew – @IWCWarChief

Kyle – @OutsidersEdgeCS

Karl — @OutsidersEdgeCS

Rob – @rbonne1

 

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Chris King: Too Soon For Seth Rollins vs. Bron Breaker?

Is WWE Backlash too soon for Bron Breakker vs Seth Rollins? Chris King weighs in! 

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Is WWE Backlash too soon for Bron Breakker vs Seth Rollins? Chris King weighs in!

‘The Visionary’ Seth Freakin’ Rollins and Bron Breakker opened Monday Night Raw in an extremely intense face-off. Both superstars traded barbs at each other. Rollins, being the veteran, was trying to show the young up-and-comer Breakker that he isn’t ready to become the next big-money superstar in the WWE. Breakker told his former Vision leader that he never needed him and got sick and tired of fighting Rollins’ battles. 

Rollins threw out the challenge for Backlash, but I am questioning whether it’s wise to give away the one-on-one match so early. Breakker made his shocking return at WrestleMania, taking out Rollins and costing him the match against Gunther. 

The following night Breakker broke his rival in two, delivering two massive spears. Last week, The Street Profits returned to help Rollins against The Vision, and that made me believe WWE was heading in a different direction. I was thinking that WWE should book The Vision vs. The Street Profits and Rollins in a six-man tag team match, but this week, Montez Ford said that they didn’t return for Rollins and they want the tag team titles. Rollins will face Breakker in a highly anticipated singles match at Backlash, where I am predicting Rollins to get the win. I can easily see Rollins’ fourteen years of experience getting the better of the young up-and-comer to outsmart him. 

While The Street Profits attempt to win the championships from Austin Theory and Logan Paul, I don’t see a title change happening anytime soon. If that’s the case, then I can see Rollins and The Street Profits teaming up in a few weeks or possibly at Night of Champions. This would also extend the rivalry between Rollins and Breakker all the way into SummerSlam, where Rollins will take the loss. I am happy that WWE didn’t rush this and add it to the Mania card because now this feud has time to develop properly.

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