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This week, TNA will start the search for Ron Killings’ next opponent. Some new rules are laid down by Bob Armstrong, the mystery of Mr. Wrestling III deepens, and Amazing Red has the chance of a lifetime. How’d they do? Let’s find out.

Tony Mamaluke vs Kid Kash: We go right into the match. There’s a lot of standing switches and going for early pins. The first few minutes of this match consist of this and it gets boring quickly. The match was okay, it wasn’t much to write home about. Kash did his best to get a decent match out of Mamaluke, but the flow of the match was just blah and there was no real chemistry between them. Kid Kash would get the win with his Money Maker finish.

Winner: Kid Kash by pinfall.

Comment: Okay match, but very boring.

To my surprise, Tenay hypes a #1 Contender’s Tournament that hasn’t been announced yet. The tournament consists of:

Curt Hennig vs Jeff Jarrett, Sonny Siaki vs Jerry Lynn, Syxx Pac vs Brian Lawler, and Ron Harris vs BG James.

Did we have trouble with the editing crew this week? Why would you hype a tournament that no one knew about?

We’re shown a pre-show interview Tenay did with Scott Hall, who actually seemed sober. Hall said that he’d been attracted by the ‘Outlaw Spirit’ of TNA. That there were young guys trying to make a name for themselves and older guys that don’t care and are there to have fun.  He also comments that the people who own the company, who are Jeff Jarrett, Jerry Jarrett, and Panda Energy, are too stupid to know when to quit. He also admitted that TNA is the only company that’s willing to hire him.

Tenay mentioned that the only title Hall has never held in his long career is the World Heavyweight Championship. Hall said that he respected the title and would be lying if he said he didn’t want it, but he also respected the TNA locker room.

When asked about Ron Killings, Hall said that he was very impressed with Killings, but Killings was going to find out that he’s not as good as he thinks he is.

NWA-TNA World Heavyweight Championship Match: Ron Killings vs Scott Hall: Killings comes out to a raucus crowd, who wasted no time telling him how much he sucked. Finally fed up with this, Killings fired back by telling the crowd that if he sucked, they swallowed.

That was pretty good.

While the crowd chanted ‘Overrated’ at him, Killings griped about the backstage politics practiced by the former Kliq/NWO members and Curt Hennig.

Normally, I would roll my eyes at this, but it definitely explains why a group of guys who are clearly past their primes are still in a main event position.

Killings then addressed the Mr. Wrestling III situation and said that Jeff Jarrett was NOT Mr. Wrestling III. No one is sure how to take that since there had been no suspicion or implication of that at all. Turning his attention to Hall, Killings tried to use Hall’s ‘Don’t sing it, just bring it,’ catchphrase but he flubs it badly. Hall comes out and advises Killings to quit messing with the fans and to stop being Jarrett’s tool because he’s getting played like Ricky Ricardo’s bongo drums.

Seriously, what decade are we in.

Anyway.

Once the ACTUAL match got going, it was pretty good. From the way Hall sounded once he came out for the match, I’m guessing that he’d visited the bar once his interview with Tenay was over because he was a little sloppy in places and his selling needed work. However, the match wasn’t as bad as their previous encounter.

Mr. Wrestling III runs in and attack Hall, but Hall was ready and fought back before unmasking Mr. Wrestling, but he didn’t show the man’s face. However, Mr. Wrestling’s work was done because the distraction was enough for Killings to get the pinfall. Mr. Wrestling gets his mask back on, though Tenay and West claim they saw light colored hair, as if that proves it was Jarrett, despite the build and body movements indicate otherwise.

Winner: Ron Killings by pinfall.

Comment: That was an okay match, but Killings needs a better opponent.

Apparently, we were supposed to have a video recap of the Hennig/Jarrett feud, but the video doesn’t show. Jarrett comes out for a promo. He claimed that he was going to keep things short since the show is Total Nonstop Action. He had two points to make.

  1. Six weeks ago, he’d vowed to stop griping about not getting a title shot and decided to earn it.

If I remember correctly, he made that vow while holding a bound, pissed off, little person before a match.

He thanked the NWA for putting him in the tournament and vowed to walk out of the tournament as NWA champion.

  1. He addressed the Mr. Wrestling III situation by putting a bounty out on the masked man’s hide. He didn’t name an amount but stated that if anyone could tell him who Mr. Wrestling was, he’d pay whatever amount they named.

I assume there’s a cap on this

At this point, Hennig comes out and he looks like he’s been in the same bar or party Hall had been at and had just left. He mocked Jarrett’s previous Double J and Chosen One gimmicks before throwing some shade at DDP for some reason.

I’m not sure what’s the obsession with DDP, I assume there’s a reason.

Hennig then implied that Jarrett himself was Mr. Wrestling III, despite the fact that Jarrett himself had beaten up Mr. Wrestling III. Hennig then vowed to kick Jarrett’s ass.

Three Way Dance for NWA-TNA Tag Team Championship: America’s Most Wanted vs Hot Shots vs The Michaels: The Hot Shots and Michaels get little reaction, and actually seemed to be in alliance with each other. Storm and Harris come out, and have AMW on their tights. Both men seem to be in a bad mood because the match started on the floor. This match was pretty good. Storm and Harris seemed to finally be gelling more as a team and their teamwork was much better than their opponents.

The Hot Shots and Michaels seemed to be in cahoots until it looked like the Michaels were going to win the match, then all hell broke loose. AMW would get the pin after hitting what would become known as the Death Sentence on one of the Michaels for the three.

Winner: America’s Most Wanted by pinfall

As AMW were celebrating, the lights went out. When the lights came back on, Slash and Primetime Brian Lee were in the ring, attacking AMW. James Mitchell is enjoying this before getting on the mic, vowing that the New Church would do whatever they wanted for as long as he tells them until he gets what he wants, calling himself a personal messiah.

Comment: Okay match, the stuff with New Church was interesting.

In another pre-show interview, Mike Tenay talked to NWA rep, Bob Armstrong. Armstrong revealed that, in an effort to give the fans a better experience and to make sure that every title match has a clear winner, if a champion gets DQ’d or counted out, they would lose the title.

In response to locker room and fan complaints about who was getting title shots, Armstrong officially announced the #1 Contender’s Tournament and the card. To keep things on the up and up, Head of Security, Don Harris would be the referee, even though his twin brother is part of the tournament.

Because that wasn’t a conflict of interest or anything.

#1 Contender’s Tournament Match: Ron Harris vs BG James: Before the match gets started, we find out that Syxx-Pac vs Brian Lawler won’t be happening tonight because Syxx has a hip injury.

Given the storyline between Syxx and Lawler, I could make a joke about this, but I won’t.

Ron Harris comes out to little reaction. Judging by the smile on his face, he seems to think he’s got an in in this thing. James does his usual entrance, without talking. The match was bleh. Don Harris was not a great referee and seemed to be favoring his brother, which is no shock.

We go to the back where Jarrett and Hennig are fighting and the jobbers are trying to pull them apart. Hennig seemed to have overdone the blading because he’s bleeding like crazy while Goldylocks is trying to get him help while still being a backstage reporter. Bob Armstrong, seemingly fed up with Don Harris’ lackluster referee job, came out and told Don that he was done as a referee. Don was furious at the dismissal and attacked Armstrong.

The distraction and chaos gave BG James the opening he needed for a roll up win.

Winner: BG James by pinfall.

Comment: Blah. How did these two get into the tournament.

Mixed Tag Team Match: Jorge Estrada and Priscilla vs Ace Steel and Bruce: This was supposed Estrada and Priscilla vs Steel and Plumtree, but Plumtree refused, saying that he was too much of a gentleman to fight a woman, so he brought out a more…appropriate competitor, Miss TNA, Bruce.

Oh no, not this again.

This match was total crap and that’s all I’m going to say about it.

Winner: Ace Steel and Bruce. After the match, Plumtree has Steel and Bruce put Priscilla over his knee so he can spank her.

Comment: BLAH!!!!

#1 Contender’s Tournament – Curt Hennig vs Jeff Jarrett: Hennig comes out for the match, his head still wrapped and his face still bloody, but before he gets in the ring, Jarrett attacks him with a chair, throws him in the ring, and hits the Stroke, to the joy of the crowd.

Winner: Jeff Jarrett by pinfall.

After the match, Jarrett continued to attack Hennig before being forced to leave.

Comment: If I had to hazard a guess of what just happened, I would guess that NWA officials decided that Hennig was too messed up to wrestle.

#1 Contender’s Tournament – Jerry Lynn vs Sonny Siaki: Goldylocks is with Jerry Lynn, and mentions his ongoing issues with Sonny Siaki and asks about revenge. Lynn finds the question amusing and says that, while he would love to get revenge on Siaki, he was more interested in winning the tournament and getting another shot at the NWA-TNA championship because politics have kept him from getting that far before.

After a recap of the Siaki/Lynn feud, Goldy is back, with Sonny Siaki, who is standing way too close for her comfort or mine. Siaki is being a real creep to Goldy, making a lot of innuendoes about her obsession with him and not saying much of value about the match.

The actual match was okay. It was better than last week’s encounter, but Siaki seemed bored and disconnected. He didn’t get much of a reaction from the fans, who were busy chanting ‘Rocky Ripoff’, and didn’t do anything to get more from them. Siaki would get the pin after using the ropes for leverage after hitting Money Clip.

Winner: Sonny Siaki by pinfall.

Enraged, Jerry Lynn attacks Siaki and gives Siaki’s knee the same treatment Siaki gave him.

Comment: That was a pretty good match, but Siaki didn’t seem very engaged in the match.

Even though Syxx-Pac is out with an injury, we get a very dramatic recap of his feud with Brian Lawler and April’s involvement.

Backstage, Goldylocks is with Lawler and April. Lawler looks like he’s over the moon and very in love. April doesn’t seem quite as lovestruck as Lawler, but she’s making a good effort.

In response to Goldy’s question, Lawler says that things between him and April are great. He compares their love to Antony and Cleopatra, or Romeo and Juliet, apparently missing the parts where those relationships ended pretty tragically. He kisses April and keeps talking about how wonderful things are.

This is nauseating, but he seems happy.

Lawler and April go out to a mixed reaction, but Lawler’s too smitten to care. A person that I sincerely hope was a plant and not an ACTUAL fan, attacks Lawler, so Lawler pulls him out of the crowd and beats him up.

X-Division Championship Match – AJ Styles (with Mortimer Plumtree) vs Amazing Red: Red gets a great ovation, as does Styles, even with Plumtree with him. I’ll admit, I was very skeptical about Amazing Red going into this match. What I’ve seen of his work in TNA since his debut hasn’t impressed me all that much. He seemed to be a high spot guy who didn’t have a lot of actual wrestling skills. I’m pleased to say that he proved me wrong, at least a little bit, in this match. Red actually showed off some wrestling skills and was able to keep up with Styles.

Styles, for his part, made Red look like a star and actually seemed a little winded halfway through the match. Plumtree, perhaps fearing his meal ticket was slipping away, grabbed Red’s leg as a distraction, but Red, wisely didn’t go after him. Styles would eventually get the pinfall after rolling through a hurricanrana off the top turnbuckle.

Winner: AJ Styles by pinfall.

Comment: Great match. Red looked fantastic in defeat.

We close with Don West doing his ‘Please keep us employed!’ promo.

Overall Comments: So how was week 19 of NWA-TNA? This week was actually pretty good. It wasn’t fantastic, but it was better than some of the shows they’ve put on.

I was disappointed that TNA has started sliding back in their treatment of women, hopefully that’s not going to become a major issue again.

One gripe I keep having is with the almost amateurish things the company is doing. If you’re going to announce a tournament, you make the official announcement at the start of the show with the explanations, not just have the lead commentator dump it on the fans at the start of the show with no explanations or build.

I normally scoff and roll my eyes when people talk about backstage politics in wrestling, particularly when it comes to the Kliq. However, this week, I found myself siding with the people complaining. Hall, Syxx, James, and Hennig (who was never part of the Kliq), are all great, but you can’t tell me that any of them really should be in the spot they’re in. All four are clearly past their prime and struggle to keep up with the younger guys, and Hall and Hennig both seem to struggle to stay sober on the job.

The Hennig thing continues to depress me. It’s sad to see a man I loved to watch wrestle decline as badly as he has. He was clearly on SOMETHING, which probably explains why his match with Jarrett was so short. I don’t know how long Hennig was in TNA, but I have a feeling he’s blown his chance.

Stinkers: We have another tie between the Mixed Tag match, Hennig/Jarrett, and James/Harris.

Snoozers: Lynn/Siaki. Siaki didn’t seem interested, which dragged the whole thing down.

Match of the Night: Styles vs Amazing Red.

Final Thoughts: Overall, this was a good show, even with all the issues.

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Chris King Looks Back: Edge vs Randy Orton in the “Greatest Wrestling Match Ever”

Chris King takes a look at the memorable WWE Backlash 2020 “Greatest Wrestling Match Ever” featuring Edge and Randy Orton!

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Chris King takes a look at the memorable WWE Backlash 2020 “Greatest Wrestling Match Ever” featuring Edge and Randy Orton!

Edge made his shocking return at the 2020 Royal Rumble and immediately reunited with his former Rated-RKO member Randy Orton. It all seemed like old times as both superstars shared respect with each other. The following night on Monday Night Raw after Orton proclaimed he wanted to get Rated-RKO back together, he hit a vicious RKO and CON-CHAIR-TO on Edge. 

‘The Viper’ was in his mind trying to protect his former partner after being out of the business for nine years but, Edge wanted to write his own storybook ending to his career. After Orton took out Edge’s wife Beth Phoenix, both men went to war in a Last Man Standing match at WrestleMania,,, in which Edge was victorious. This did not sit well with The Viper, who had gone back to his sick and sadistic ways. In order to prove who the better wrestler is, WWE announced they would compete in the Greatest Wrestling Match Ever at Backlash. 

The production for this match was legendary as both superstars were introduced by Howard Finkel via a Madison Square Garden-esque microphone, which made it feel like a big deal. Even the referee, Charles Robinson, was dressed up with a blue collared dress shirt and bow tie. The iconic match started with Edge attempting trying to outwrestle his opponent, but The Viper outsmarted him at every turn. Edge delivered a kick to Orton on the outside to gain some advantage. ‘The Master Manipulator’ utilized Orton’s weakened shoulder to keep him locked in a headlock, slowing down his opponent’s attack. 

Orton tried to hit a superplex on the outside, but Edge hit a flying clothesline, and The Viper started to bleed. It’s been all Edge so far in this match as he locked in a crossface on his friend-turned-rival. Orton turned things around with a nasty modified neckbreaker that sent Edge gasping for air. The Viper kept the punishment going as he slung his opponent into the pixie glass, barricade, announce table, and even the steel steps neck first. The Viper slowed everything down with a stiff sleeper hold, keeping Edge on the mat. 

In the third quarter both superstars started pulling out tricks, including the late great Eddie Guerrero’s Three Amigos suplexes. While the assault continued, Orton hit a massive Superplex off the top rope for a solid two-count. The Viper tried to take advantage of his rival’s neck with a super-draping DDT, but Edge countered with an Edge-E-Cution for another two count. After a modified chokehold, Orton hit an Angle Slam to give him some reprieve.

The Viper dumped Edge to the outside and was able to capitalize with his patented draping DDT. The Master Manipulator hit Edge-O-Matic for a near fall. Edge wanted a spear but instead managed to hit Christian, his long-time tag team partner’s, signature move, the Unprettier, for a two count. The Viper bounced back and hit a Pedigree, paying homage to Orton’s former Evolution leader HHH. Edge then hit a Rock Bottom! After several unique pinfall attempts by Edge, The Viper struck with an RKO for a 2.99 count. 

The finishing minutes of this classic match saw Orton going for a punt kick, and Edge hit two devastating spears for a solid two count! He went up for a flying attack, and Orton caught his rival into an RKO for yet another near fall. Edge locked in the Anti-Venom submission, but The Viper hit a low blow followed by a vicious Punt for the three-count! 

Was this the greatest wrestling match ever… No, not really. This was a solid match, though, as both superstars tried to utilize everything in their playbooks and even some homages to the greats of WWE. I think at this point of COVID, WWE was trying to use any taglines or unique creativity to produce great wrestling content. Edge unfortunately suffered a torn triceps injury that would keep him out of the ring until the 2021 Royal Rumble. The Viper would go on to become WWE Champion once again later that year!

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24 Years Of The Viper: Randy Orton Hits 24 Years In WWE

Chris King takes a look back at some of the most iconic feuds of Randy Orton and his 24 years in WWE.

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Chris King takes a look back at some of the most iconic feuds of Randy Orton and his 24 years in WWE.

Twenty-four years ago, Randy Orton made his debut on the April 25th episode of Friday Night SmackDown against the veteran Hardcore Holly. ‘The Viper’ has had a decorated career in WWE: grand slam champion, a fourteen-time world champion, two-time Royal Rumble winner, former Money in the Bank, and multi-time tag team champion. Here are some of Orton’s most iconic feuds in WWE. 

Randy Orton vs. Mick Foley 

The ‘Legend Killer’ was so disrespectful to Mick Foley by verbally abusing him and spitting at him. Foley retired in 2093 but made his shocking return at the 2004 Royal Rumble, eliminating Orton. The two superstars would begin a heated rivalry at WrestleMania XX, where Evolution (Randy Orton, Batista, and Ric Flair) would face off in a six-man tag team match against The Rock and Mick Foley. Orton’s victory would continue his ascension through the WWE, but it also continued his feud with Foley. Foley would take Orton to hell with him at the 2004 Backlash PLE. 

Both superstars would have a No Holds Barred Falls Count Anywhere match, which Orton himself considers one of his favorite matches of his career. 

The legend helped solidify Orton as a top heel in the company, where people had some misconceptions that a pretty boy couldn’t get hardcore and messy against the hardcore legend. Without their iconic feud, perhaps Orton’s greatest achievement may not have happened. 

Randy Orton vs. Triple H 

Evolution’s leader Triple H had been telling Orton that he was the diamond in the group. Orton was so appreciative of his mentor’s support as he challenged Chris Benoit at the 2004 SummerSlam PLE. Orton would shock the world by becoming the youngest world champion in WWE history. The very next night after a successful defense, Evolution came out to celebrate with him. With Orton on Batista’s shoulders, his world turned upside down with the iconic “thumbs down” moment. HHH went from friend to rival in seconds, bloodying up his protege out of pure jealousy and rage. The two would have a mini feud where HHH would take the world title away from Orton. 

The rivalry was restarted after ‘The Viper’ hit Vince McMahon (HHH’s father-in-law) with a vicious punt kick after he was about to fire him. Orton, along with his two Legacy stablemates Cody Rhodes and Ted DiBiase Jr., made it his life’s mission to destroy the McMahons, including

Shane McMahon and HHH’s wife Stephanie McMahon. The Viper blamed IED for his actions, but in reality it was Orton getting his ultimate revenge against his former mentor when he was viciously kicked out of Evolution. 

Randy Orton vs. The Undertaker 

In 2005, The Legend Killer was looking to do the impossible when he challenged The Undertaker to a match at WrestleMania 21. Orton was young and arrogant and was trying to do everything to break his rival’s undefeated streak at WrestleMania, but The Phenom got the job done. During the match, Orton’s father Bob Orton Jr. tried to help his son win. At SummerSlam, Orton and Undertaker would do battle again; this time, Orton’s dad would be disguised as a fan, and The Legend Killer would get the victory. 

At No Mercy, both Ortons would face Undertaker in a casket match. Orton won the contest, and as his rival lay in the casket, they lit it on fire. 

A few months later, The Deadman would make his shocking return at the 2005 Survivor Series PLE after Orton was named the sole survivor for his team. Taker rising through the fire and kicking the casket open was one of the coolest moments in WWE history. Orton thought he had the last laugh, but in true Taker fashion, he challenged him to a Hell in the Cell match. Orton with nowhere to hide inside the demonic structure, as The Phenom finally got his revenge. 

Randy Orton vs. John Cena 

This rivalry was the next generation’s Stone Cold vs. The Rock because it spans throughout the years. Orton vs. Cena was simply both GOATs trying to prove who was at the very top in the company. This storied rivalry began in 2007, when Cena was the WWE Champion and Orton was challenging him at SummerSlam. Cena would retain it, and The Viper struck back, delivering a vicious punt kick to Cena’s father, who was at ringside. They would feud for a few months until Cena got injured and needed surgery. 

All throughout 2008, both rivals would go their separate ways until the following year. After Orton’s vengeance was successful at the 2009 Backlash with winning the WWE Championship, his and Cena’s rivalry was restarted. They competed in a series of matches throughout the summer. Their iconic I Quit Match, a 60-minute Ironman Match, will go down in history as one of the greatest of all time. Cena would finally get his comeuppance inside Hell in the Cell by winning the WWE Championship. This would put a pause on their rivalry. 

Both superstars would find their way back to each other in 2014, when Orton won the WWE Championship after cashing in his MITB briefcase on Daniel Bryan. The Viper was the focal point of The Authority (Triple H, Randy Orton, and Stephanie McMahon), and Cena once again was the thorn in his side. Cena had won the World Heavyweight Championship, and this was building to a huge title unification ladder match. Both superstars would utilize everything in their arsenal, but Orton handcuffed his rival’s hand to the ring ropes. Cena went crashing through the table, and The Viper claimed both titles. 

In 2025, Cena would do the unthinkable and turn heel, which shocked the world. Mr. ‘Never Give Up’ actually gave up on his fans and verbally attacked everyone for wanting to be like him. While the self-proclaimed GOAT was gloating about defeating Cody Rhodes to become a seventeen-time WWE champion, an old rival snuck up behind him and gave him an RKO! The two longtime rivals would face off one final time at Backlash inside Orton’s hometown. Their match wasn’t incredible because Cena was still trying to find his footing as a top heel. Cena would retain the title, and sadly, this is how one of the greatest rivalries in WWE history ended.

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