Opinion
Pro Wrestling: The Senior Tour?
Wrestling all over the world–not just in WWE–is featuring and celebrating stars of years past, and doing so in prominent positions. Is this any different than Hollywood and music?
While much has been said about the ages in the tag team match at Crown Jewel (Shawn Michaels is 53, Triple H 49, The Undertaker 53, and Kane 51) that’s not the only place where guys who could be my older brother are competing. 49 year old Kurt Angle just wrestled on RAW this week after working at Crown Jewel himself.
It’s not just WWE, either!
Chris Jericho is still going in New Japan at the ripe young age of 47 and will be in the second biggest match at Wrestle Kingdom in January when he faces Tetsuya Naito in a defense of the IWGP Intercontinental Championship that he’s held since this summer. Over in Ring of Honor 47 year old Bully Ray is the best heel they have working there (his work this past weekend included a match where he was the manager for Silas Young, who faced the 55 year old Sandman in a no DQ match). But wait, there’s more!
One of the biggest stories on the indie scene this year is the run that 50 year old Pierre Carl Oulette (PCO) is on in 2018. And in AAA 52 year old LA Park, the Chairman from WCW back in the late 90s, has undergone a career resurgence. That’s a whole lot of work for guys who are almost or over 50 and have long since seen their best days. And with that come the obvious questions: (a) Is this bad for business? and (b) Is this a bad sign for their respective companies?
In response to the first question, I give it a resounding no. Of course it’s not bad for business. Bringing in anyone with the name recognition and residual popularity to sell a few more tickets or get a few more views is not only just fine, it has a pretty long history in the business. Bruno Sammartino was working house shows in 1986 ad 87 at 50 years old, often in the main event or second highest match on the card. Verne Gagne won the AWA World Championship at 54 years old (it helped that he was the owner and booker at the time, of course).
Ric Flair worked until he was almost 60. Wahoo McDaniel was US champion at 46 and competed until he was 57. The Rock n Roll Express are still working indie shows now at ages 62 (Ricky Morton) and 60 (Robert Gibson). The list goes on and on. If guys can still get in a ring, move around at all, and still get off one or two of their big moves then there’s a good chance they’re going to keep working.
And they’re not alone. The music industry is chock full of guys that are old enough to have fathered some of these dudes and are still going – Paul McCartney, The Rolling Stones, Tony Bennett, and Bruce Springsteen, to name a few. Liam Neeson is still taking out bad guys into his 60s and the Expendables series is centered around 50 and 60 something year old action stars returning to do their thing. As long as they can pass and we’re still willing to pay it’s not that big of a deal.
But what about the people that are hiring them? Is it any kind of bad omen that there’s a desire or need to keep running these guys out there, whether it’s just every now and then or on a regular basis? To that I answer…….it depends.
Yes, making a 50 something year old your full time top star and putting your top title on them for an extended run is a sign of major desperation or just bad decision making. But nobody’s doing that here. Bully Ray gets a big segment on TV almost every week but he doesn’t main event and he doesn’t challenge for any titles. Angle’s match Monday was booked in order to make him look like an old guy who’s in over his head with Drew McIntyre. P
ark and PCO aren’t working 60 minute Ironman matches. And while the 4 way nursing home tag match looked bad in spots from what I heard, that and it’s predecessor at the Super Show Down were special additions to shows for crowds that hadn’t seen those guys in person before. And while you can argue that they got too much TV time to promote them, to the point that it overshadowed Evolution in very conspicuous fashion, now that those dates are done we’re not seeing them anymore. So I don’t see what the big brouhaha was all about in hindsight outside of the advertising.
So I guess you could say I’m fine with the old guys still working and still getting prominent spots sometimes. On a personal note, when my Dad saw Bruno was still working it took him back to his younger days of watching and gave us one more thing to bond over. And he didn’t say ‘man, Bruno’s still out there? They must be desperate.’ He was happy to see that ‘his guy’ could still go a little and that made me happy.
When I’m in the car with my kids and play some of ‘my music’ to a favorable reaction it makes me feel pretty good. Nothing wrong with giving some of our elders a place on the show as long as it’s managed right. Like all forms of entertainment wrestling and WWE exists on a continuum that spans from my grandparents to my children and there’s room for everyone to participate and enjoy.
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AJ’s Top 3 Favorite SummerSlams
AJ is back with his annual opinion article, and this time the SummerSlam buzz got him wondering about his personal Top 3.
It’s been a while since I have done any form of writing and SummerSlam is this Saturday. Of all the SummerSlams I’ve seen over the years; which ones are my favorites? While it’s not a revolutionary idea, I figured everyone loves to debate favorites of well, anything. Don’t worry though because this isn’t just going to be pure recency bias. I’ve watched the majority of them so with the ones I put on the list, it hit me more in some way shape or form whether it was story, a really good match or it just felt like a solid event.
At least this proves WWE is trending in a good direction for me, when it gets the ol’ brain juices flowing just because a show is around the corner!
#3: 2022 (Ol’ Brock Lesnar Has A Farm)
Starting off the show, we get Bianca looking for a rematch against Becky from last years SummerSlam and it was better than the 21 second affair that everyone claims was a squash. This time Bianca holds her own and beats the Man in a fairly decent match, good way to get the event started. Next up is the heat seeking missile, Logan Paul against the former heat seeking missile because, well he wasn’t cut out for it and wasn’t a guy in everyone’s eyes, The Miz. After they had their blow off at Mania with Logan coming out on top which… isn’t awful, I just don’t like Logan Paul because he has that dude bro aura and swagger to make him more hateable than any other person on the card. Which I suppose is his gimmick…so…kudos?
First Championship match is for the US Championship and it’s as expected that in Theory, he should never beat someone to the caliber of Bobby Lashley which is no surprise. Dominik and Rey still back when Dom wanted the good fight against the Judgement Day before joining them later. The former Colts players, which they hammered it dahn in this match up showed that the canal swimming, trash talkin’, podcastin’, current RAW Color Commentatin’ goofball we all love, Pat McAfee came out on top again Bum Ass Corbin.
Usos putting the Street Profits on lockdown in the penitentiary since I believe this was peak Bloodline with the belt collecting and running all of WWE. Liv beat Ronda Rousey which isn’t astonishing but it’s not something people had on their bingo cards for anything with WWE so it was a nice little shock factor. The most memorable part of the night is obviously the Main Event, Lesnar brings the tractor, Roman catching the Microphone and Brock stands on top of the vehicle. Damn good match that showed off what they do in the ring since Roman caught his stride as the main bad guy and Brock… liked people after all of this? That is still a weird statement in my head. Brock being a good guy people person. If Liv wasn’t on bingo cards for wrestling, that is not on bingo cards in any aspect of life really.
That is more of the event that had solid matches and story going for it. No weird double count out, multiple people involved, 5 tag matches on the card. Things made sense and weren’t convoluted, had shocking moments that were great to see like Liv actually getting a title defense and there were the results we all expected at the time like Theory losing in 4 minutes to Bobby Lashley.
#2: 2009 (Are You Ready for The Return?)
This event wasn’t that strong. It was strong with the star power involved in 2009 with guys like Rey Mysterio as Intercontinental Champion, Orton and Cena for the WWE Championship as it was becoming as stale as month old chips and CM Punk was facing Jeff Hardy before he ultimately returned to TNA at the beginning of 2010 after this PPV. For me, it’s not so much of the show itself, it was more of the memories because the Balai as our friends Chris Platt and Rey Cash like to call my brother and I, we were just coming back into wrestling and we were TNA Fans. We didn’t watch WWE that much really, it was just what came on after another channel had old ROH shows before they moved to three hours and swallowed the 8pm Eastern Slot. No, the reason why this has so many memories for me is three main reasons. First, Orton and Cena. They have had their rivalry since the beginning it seems, being each others foils like Hogan and Piper before them and there had to be a stipulation where if Randy was Counted Out or DQ’d, he’d lose the championship regardless. This was prime Viper Randy and the obvious joke we had of Super Cena where he very rarely lost, unless it was SummerSlam surprisingly enough.
Number two reason was CM Punk and Jeff Hardy. Hardys known for the Ladder and TLC matches in the past and this being the penultimate match for this feud and it was a banger of a match. If you didn’t know Punk before, it was a great introduction to his wrestling. I used to like Punk a lot because of this match because he could talk, wrestle… and not insanely personal with things in wrestling. In all seriousness, this was a great match. Ultimate risks, high reward for Punk grabbing the World Heavyweight Championship and he was given his next feud because of the final boss of SmackDown at that time. Thanks, Teddy Long.
The main and final reason though why this match gave me the memories flowing back is more of the fact that one of my closest and longest termed friends of 23 years, also loves wrestling. Back when we were younger, he’d do MoCap videos on YouTube with his figures. We’d have friends come over for parties at his house and we’d do the one thing WWE always told us not to do and that was try it at home. He was always stronger than me, I was always more charismatic. He had the power aspect and did things with brute force, I could talk my way out of trouble with parents if we did something wrong. There was always one thing that our respective mother’s always called us though… it’s on the tip of my tongue… oh right, ‘Degenerates’.
As soon as we were called that, we kind of parodied the DX line. I was limber enough to do the HBK pose and do a Superkick before it became the new DDT and he would just Spinebuster people and knew how to do the water spit. So what do you think was the main reason we even ordered this PPV for his 13th Birthday? I think the two guys we were pretending to be were set to return on a tank and toss out some glow sticks. The return of DX, Shawn Michaels coming back after Mania with Triple H to deal with the Legacy problem was an amazing return for them and made everything so much fun.
So we have the solid card and this one has a personal story… what’s my number one SummerSlam? Is it personal? Well yes but not going into that. Is it a good card? To me, it was a phenomenal card! Is it memorable? Seeing how wrestling fans still mention at least three matches to this day.
#1: 2005 (Octopus in the Washer, Lover’s Quarrel and Where the F%#$ is Vickie?)
Quite possibly some of the best matches I’ve seen and one that was just the most hilarious moments of overselling in wrestling history, I know why I love this SummerSlam but it’s also a really good card at the same time. Redacted beats Orlando Jordan in 25 seconds for the US Title and they made jokes about it like, he can make a coffee faster than he beat Orlando and stuff like that, it’s pretty funny. Angle getting sick of Eugene’s antics for his Gold Medal was also a great bit they had play up, the Year long feud of Randy Orton and Undertaker was still going on where Orton comes out on top this time around to get the win back from Mania, Jericho returning for the match with Cena in a whole promotional thing for each other’s groups, Fozzy for Jericho and the Chain Gang doing Bad, Bad Man for Cena leading up to a match for the WWE Championship. JBL won a 20 man battle royal on SmackDown to win the Championship…… Opportunity to face the newest member of SmackDown, Batista but the three main matches that a lot of people talk about to this day; Edge vs Matt Hardy, Rey vs Eddie for Dominik and Hogan vs HBK in the Main Event.
I have reasons to enjoy the Hardy/Edge match but it looked like a real fight, it really made us believe that Matt Hardy was going to kill Edge because real names were dropped during this tirade from Hardy. It wasn’t Edge and Lita, it was Adam and Amy. Matt was so dead set on beating the hell out of Edge that they made a situation into gold and it was a great moment for this match to happen, I believe it was also an Unsanctioned Match too which added the intensity until matt got concussed and knocked senseless that it looked like he couldn’t fight for anything but the build up was what made it seem like a marque match. It made it feel real, it made it feel awesome and it made it feel personal.
Eddie kept tormenting Rey Mysterio about Dominik not being Rey’s but Eddie’s for the summer. That’s all you heard from Eddie being the weasel he was is hanging out with Dominik, making the world believe it’s his son and what not (Let’s not do a fast forward to today where he has the mullet, mustache and everything like Eddie) but they settle this in a Ladder Match where the top of it is a document for the custody of Dominik and my god, this match is better than it should have been. I expect nothing else from Eddie because the man hated having a bad match, Dom got involved and stopped Eddie, Vickie was late and stopped Eddie. The whole match was good it was just very weird with the premise but was a great match. I wonder if Rey regrets his decision to win the match now…
Octopus in a Washing Machine… those five words have resonated with Shawn Michaels’ performance in this match, forever. It was supposed to be an amazing match up between Hogan and Michaels, Icon vs Icon it said and suddenly Hogan’s back gives out, can’t do a trilogy of matches so we can only do the one and then pull out of everything after. This match was set up to be a classic and instead turned into the most unbelievable sell fest ever. A Hogan big boot caused Shawn to tumble 3 or 4 times, getting crotched on the ropes had HBK bouncing higher than he should have, being tossed out of the ring made it look like Shawn never broke his back in 1998 from how much he flopped and flipped around like crazy. It’s bad… or maybe even good that a lot of current wrestlers watched this match that went, “I can sell like that, I want to be a wrestler” and did. So good or bad, I don’t know but for some reason this PPV has always had a place in my heart for how memorable it was.
Those are my top three SummerSlams so far but who knows, 2024 has potential to maybe bump something or at least get me to consider a shift. Should be fun to see how the show plays out! What are some of your favorite SummerSlams?
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