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Life As An Indy Wrestling Referee Part 1

Abe brings his unique perspective to the masses! Anyone with aspirations for wrestling should peruse this for a heads up!

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When I graduated college in August of 2018, I knew I wanted to contribute to a wrestling promotion in any capacity I could. My first thought was Booker T’s Reality of Wrestling (ROW). They’ve produced the likes of Kylie Rae, Ember Moon, and Fallah Bahh and would obviously create great connections. The problem is that the facility is about a 2 hour drive from me. That’s nothing if I needed to travel for a show but a clear problem if I needed to be there daily.

I asked a friend if he knew anyone in wrestling and he directed me to someone named Adam Drake that works commentary for a local promotion called Lions Pride Sports. After looking into it and seeing guys like Rikishi and Jerry “The King” Lawler on previous posters, I got excited. I asked Adam if there was any way I could help. He told me that the students of the school are typically the ones that help out.

At that moment, I thought back to a conversation I had with my friend, Alex Reyes. You may remember Alex from doing backstage interviews in NXT around 2016. Several years ago I asked him how I could break into the wrestling business. My ultimate goal was to be a writer on a creative team but there aren’t entry level jobs for that kind of thing. You would need to have worked in television or wrestling for years. Alex told me that I should consider being a referee. I would learn how to take bumps and get my first experience in the industry.

After reminiscing on that talk, I decided to take the leap of faith and start my training as a referee. Adam redirected me to the school’s head coach, Houston Carson. Houston was a pro wrestler that mainly worked in his career in the state of Texas. Over his career, he wrestled the likes of Bobby Lashley, Jinder Mahal, Gene Snitsky, Satoshi Kojima, and Davey Boy Smith Jr., to name a few. Unfortunately, he was forced into early retirement before age 30 due to a medical condition. He decided to found Lions Pride Sports in 2017 then the Lions Den Training Facility in 2018.

On October 10th of 2018 I had my first day of class. It was rough, but I knew that’s where I needed to be. Everyone was so welcoming. The best part is that we all shared that love of professional wrestling. I honestly couldn’t think of another time where I could openly talk about wrestling with a group of strangers. Above all, what kept me coming back was how much I was learning in such a short amount of time.

I’ve always been a fan that made sure to defend the sanctity of pro wrestling but that loyalty got inflated tenfold after enrolling. Never again will I say someone on Raw or Smackdown “can’t wrestle” or is “overrated”. It’s probably the most ignorant thing for any fan to think. I doubt Triple H would even let you work an NXT house show in front of 100 people until you’ve mastered the fundamentals. I could probably write an entire article on just the absolute basics. I’m talking circling the ring, locking up, grabbing/receiving a headlock, and hitting the ropes. We’ve seen these things done perfectly a million times every week on television but we never get to see what it looks like when a beginner is doing them. Trust me when I say it’s not pretty.

It’s insane how much the placement of each body part matters between both people in the ring. Not just from a functionality standpoint but from a psychology one as well. I couldn’t even show my cousin that I learned a wristlock because he didn’t know where to put his feet. I used to think ring psychology was just the art of working a body part for a whole match but that doesn’t even tickle the surface. There’s psychology injected into every move, even the collar and elbow tie-up.

Everything you hear is true. Hitting the ropes at full speed stings. Taking bumps hurts. I didn’t take my first bump from another person until about a month into the class. If you bump correctly you don’t feel anything. However, I’ve taken basic sidewalk slams with no force behind them and I couldn’t catch my wind for several minutes because I didn’t follow the correct procedure. Our warehouse isn’t insulated either. The only thing between us and nature is the walls. There were plenty of days where we had to bump in 30-40 degree weather. After experiencing pain in the most simple bumps, I’m even more amazed at pro wrestlers’ abilities to hit missile dropkicks and superplexes.

In November, we had two of Booker’s students, Zack Mason and Will Allday guest lecture us. That was easily my most difficult day. I couldn’t do anything right. I attempted a dropkick without knee pads and gave myself a bone bruise that lasted a month. I tried to do a front bump for the first time and nearly concussed myself. Taking arm drags was fine but I never got the desired distance and direction Will wanted from me. It was rough.

Coach Houston is actually good friends with Lance Archer so he came to guest coach in December. We couldn’t get through our most basic drills because of how much psychology Lance needed to teach us between each step. If you think you know it all as a wrestling fan, that day would have made you realize you know nothing. Thankfully, I was reffing most of the drills because I could see how overwhelmed and unsure the rest of the class was growing. That whole day was a real privilege. I can now say I’ve taken a shoulder tackle from a member of Suzuki-gun.

I learned that there’s actual phases of a match. Every now and then the class sits down and Houston gives us a psychology talk where we break down those phases. Ever notice how you don’t see Seth Rollins ever hit a slingblade or Falcon Arrow in the whole first half of a match? That’s part of it. We’ll then be given homework where we have to find a match of our choosing and write up a whole psychology analysis of it. It sounds cliche, but I definitely watch wrestling a lot differently now. The best part is that it hasn’t gotten any less enjoyable.

You may notice I’m being very vague with the way I’m describing the things I’ve learned. I’m doing that out of respect for my instructors and wrestling schools everywhere. They’ve taken hours upon hours from their life to teach us these things. I’ve never heard these lessons spoken outside the walls of a wrestling school so who would I be to air them all out?

I’ll bookmark it right there for now. I’ve talked about my first impressions with wrestling school, so next time I’ll get into the horrors, thrills and intricacies of working in front of an audience for the first time!

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DeMarco: Top 5 Non-Title WrestleMania Matches In WWE History

Not all WrestleMania classics had titles on the line. Dive into the top 5 non-title matches that stole the show & defined legacies. #WrestleMania #WWEHistory

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Not all WrestleMania classics had titles on the line. Dive into the top 5 non-title matches that stole the show and defined legacies.

WrestleMania is the Showcase Of The Immortals, but it’s not always the championship matches that steal the show—or define careers. In fact, some of the most iconic, business-defining, and emotionally resonant contests at the Grandest Stage of Them All didn’t feature a title at all. These matches succeeded because of character work, in-ring execution, and the kind of storytelling that sells tickets and moves merch.

Here are the five best non-title matches in WrestleMania history—at least, according to me!


5. The Rock vs. Hulk Hogan – WrestleMania X8 (2002)

This was never going to be a five-star technical clinic—but it was always going to be the moment. “Icon vs. Icon” was a tagline, sure, but it was also the reality: the biggest star of the ‘80s vs. the biggest star of the Attitude Era. And Toronto turned it into magic. Hogan walked in a heel but walked out immortal (again), with the SkyDome shaking on every punch, every look, every gesture.

What made this work was its self-awareness. Rock and Hogan read the crowd and flipped roles mid-match—Rock became the arrogant aggressor while Hogan Hulked Up to thunderous applause. It’s not often a non-title match headlines a card emotionally the way this one did, but it dominated every headline and highlight reel.


4. Owen Hart vs. Bret Hart – WrestleMania X (1994)

Sibling rivalries don’t usually lead to technical masterpieces, but then again, this wasn’t your average family drama. Owen and Bret opened WrestleMania X with a wrestling clinic that stood tall over a night packed with title changes. Owen needed to prove he was more than Bret’s little brother, and he did it by out-wrestling the best wrestler in the company. Clean. One-two-three.

It wasn’t just a great match—it was perfect storytelling. Owen’s victory, contrasted with Bret’s later world title win, set the tone for an entire year of brother-vs-brother tension. Bret became champion, but Owen had the moral victory—and all the bragging rights. This is proof that opening matches can steal the show.


3. The Undertaker vs. Shawn Michaels – WrestleMania 25 (2009)

If WrestleMania moments could be trademarked, this match would be the reason why. The Undertaker vs. Shawn Michaels wasn’t about championships—it was about legacy. Michaels wanted to be the man who ended The Streak. The build was steeped in biblical imagery: light vs. dark, heaven vs. hell. And the match? Pure perfection. Each man brought everything they had—near-falls, psychology, reversals that had 70,000+ people gasping in unison.

It was 30 minutes of generational storytelling that transcended pro wrestling. And here’s the kicker—it wasn’t even the main event. Yet it dwarfed everything that followed. Meltzer gave it 4.75 stars, fans gave it their hearts, and WWE gave it a sequel the next year. A match so good it forced the company to run it back—because lightning actually struck.

Now, if THIS MATCH is #3, what could possible be #2 and #1…


2. Bret Hart vs. “Stone Cold” Steve Austin – WrestleMania 13 (1997)

This wasn’t just a match—it was the turning point of an era. The Submission Match between Bret Hart and Steve Austin was as violent as it was poetic, with Ken Shamrock enforcing the rules and the Chicago crowd growing more frenzied by the second. The brilliance? The shift. Bret Hart, the traditionalist hero, grew darker and more self-righteous by the second, while the disrespectful anti-hero Austin refused to quit, even when drowning in his own blood. There was no title on the line, but the stakes felt bigger than gold.

The infamous double turn changed the business. Austin’s defiance turned him into the voice of a new generation of fans—blue collar, anti-authority, Attitude Era. Meanwhile, Bret would go on to lead the heel Hart Foundation. WWE didn’t need a championship to create a moment that catapulted Austin into superstardom and ignited the company’s hottest era. This match is business-first booking at its absolute best.


1. Kurt Angle vs. Shawn Michaels – WrestleMania 21 (2005)

Dream matches often disappoint. This one didn’t. At WrestleMania 21, Olympic gold medalist Kurt Angle went hold-for-hold and spot-for-spot with Mr. WrestleMania himself, and together they delivered a masterclass in in-ring psychology. Every sequence had stakes, every near-fall had meaning. It was a stylistic war: Michaels’ heart vs. Angle’s intensity.

Angle forcing Michaels to tap was a statement—it told fans that pure wrestling, not just spectacle, could still main-event caliber storytelling without any need for a title. Michaels sold the ankle lock like death, and Angle’s post-match collapse sold the moment as a hard-fought war. This is the kind of match that keeps purists up at night, smiling, and leaves the storytelling fans like myself as happy as can be!


10 Honorable Mentions (Not Honorable, Just For The Heck Of It)

  • Edge vs. Mick Foley – WrestleMania 22 (2006)
    A hardcore war that solidified Edge as a top-tier main eventer. That flaming table spear is still played in every Edge highlight reel.

  • AJ Styles vs. Shane McMahon – WrestleMania 33 (2017)
    Everyone expected smoke and mirrors—what they got was a surprisingly technical, high-energy opener that kicked off the show right.

  • The Undertaker vs. Triple H – WrestleMania 28 (2012)
    “End of an Era” wasn’t just a tagline. The Hell in a Cell match, with HBK as referee, was a brutal epilogue to a generation’s legacy.

  • Shawn Michaels vs. Chris Jericho – WrestleMania XIX (2003)
    A student-teacher battle of wills. Jericho’s low blow post-match was the perfect heel punctuation to a career-defining contest.

  • Randy Orton vs. Seth Rollins – WrestleMania 31 (2015)
    The greatest RKO of all time. That curb stomp reversal belongs in a museum.

  • Floyd Mayweather vs. Big Show – WrestleMania XXIV (2008)
    More sports-entertainment than wrestling, but a crossover moment that made mainstream headlines and paid off with a great finish.

  • Roddy Piper vs. Adrian Adonis – WrestleMania III (1987)
    A retirement match with big heat, a hot crowd, and Piper walking off into the sunset (for a minute).

  • The Firefly Funhouse Match – John Cena vs. Bray Wyatt – WrestleMania 36 (2020)
    Cinematic weirdness at its best. A meta masterstroke that broke Cena down in layers.

  • Bad Bunny & Damian Priest vs. The Miz & John Morrison – WrestleMania 37 (2021)
    Bad Bunny stunned everyone. He didn’t just belong—he elevated the show.

  • Rey Mysterio vs. Dominik Mysterio – WrestleMania 39 (2023)
    Father vs. son in a grudge match that played perfectly off real-life drama and Hall of Fame weekend emotions.


Some of these matches shaped legacies. Others shifted eras. But all of them proved that the most memorable moments at WrestleMania don’t need a title—they just need truth in the storytelling and fire in the execution.

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DeMarco: The Biggest WrestleMania Match WWE Is Afraid To Book

Greg DeMarco breaks down the one match WWE was seemingly afraid to book for WrestleMania, despite setting it up over the span of two years!

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Greg DeMarco breaks down the one match WWE was seemingly afraid to book for WrestleMania, despite setting it up over the span of two years!

WWE loves its WrestleMania moments. But sometimes, the most electric moment is also the most terrifying. And if we’re being honest, there’s one match that could shatter the internet, define an era, and launch two careers into another stratosphere—if WWE had the guts to actually pull the trigger:

Rhea Ripley vs. Dominik Mysterio at WrestleMania 41.

Sounds crazy? Maybe. But it’s also  he most logical, lucrative, and legacy-defining decision WWE could make for both stars. Let’s break it down like we always do here: not through fantasy, not through fan service, but through business. Because this match had major upside—and one very real risk.


Pro #1: A Headline-Grabbing Spectacle With Viral Potential

WrestleMania is about the moment—and Ripley vs. Dominik is a moment waiting to happen. Their on-screen relationship in Judgment Day has become one of WWE’s most compelling, meme-able dynamics, blending soap opera with real emotion and elite trolling. YouTube clips rack up views. Social media runs wild with edits and thirst traps. The chemistry between them? Off the charts.

A WrestleMania match between them isn’t just “intergender” for the sake of it. It’s the end of a long-term story that’s already over with the audience. WWE doesn’t need to create this heat—it exists. All they’d be doing is lighting the match and letting it burn all the way to Allegiant Stadium in Las Vegas.


Pro #2: A Massive Risk That Can Pay Off With the Right Booking

Let’s be real: intergender wrestling is still a hot-button issue. But the times are changing—and WWE knows it. They’ve already had Rhea get physical with Akira Tozawa, Solo Sikoa, and in the men’s Royal Rumble. Fans haven’t rejected it—they’ve embraced it, because it fits her character.

Dominik, meanwhile, isn’t some powerhouse male wrestler. He’s a weasel. A brat. And most importantly, he’s believable as someone who could get wrecked by Rhea and still come out better for it. This isn’t Chyna vs. Jeff Jarrett in 1999. This is something entirely fresh.

And if AEW can run intergender matches with stars like Adam Cole and Britt Baker without fallout, then WWE—a much more disciplined, family-conscious product—can do it right. Book it with logic, lean into the emotion, and structure the match like an unsanctioned war, and you’ve got lightning in a bottle. Plus there IS precedent for this in WWE. You have Chyna, of course, and more recently you have Becky Lynch vs. James Ellsworth.


Pro #3: Judgment Day Drama Finally Pays Off In a Big Way

Judgment Day has been one of WWE’s best long-term success stories. But you can only tease the implosion for so long before fans check out. Finn’s beefing with Priest. JD is being JD. But the real core—the engine that kept this stable at its most relevant—was Rhea and Dom.

They were the emotional center. The dynamic people actually cared about. So if they’re going to culminate in a match, you don’t do it on a random Raw. You don’t do it at Elimination Chamber. You do it at WrestleMania. And you do it in a way that matters.

This match would be the culmination of everything. Betrayal, heartbreak, dominance, redemption. Dom turned on Rhea, Dom costs Rhea the Women’s World Championship more than once (think the Raw On Netflix premiere, and rewrite the ending to Liv Morgan vs. Rhea Ripley) and now Rhea wants the revenge she never got. The story writes itself. And it sets the table for their next chapters with clean slates and elevated status.


Con: It Risks Undermining Rhea Ripley’s Star Power

There’s one real risk WWE has to weigh: Rhea Ripley is a top-tier star. Maybe the top star in the women’s division. She should have main-evented WrestleMania 39 Night One. She’s the face of cross-brand credibility. She moves merch. She trends. She wins.

Taking her out of the title picture for a “personal” match—even one this hot—is a gamble. If not done correctly, it could trivialize her reign, reduce her to a storyline prop, or worse: send a message that her biggest spotlight doesn’t involve a championship.

And make no mistake—there’s a business cost to that. Rhea is the division right now. If WWE doesn’t protect her aura and keep her looking like a destroyer, even in loss or emotional turmoil, the entire angle could unravel. The story only works if Rhea stays the alpha, even while taking the emotional damage.


Final Bell

Rhea Ripley vs. Dominik Mysterio at WrestleMania 41 isn’t a joke. It isn’t shock booking. It’s a rare opportunity where character, emotion, long-term storytelling, and business aligned perfectly. WWE has built this slow burn for nearly two years. The most unexpected—and potentially best—WrestleMania match was right in front of them.

All they had to do… was be brave enough to book it.

About Chairshot Radio Network

Launched in 2017, the Chairshot Radio Network presents you with the best in sports, entertainment, and sports entertainment. Wrestling and wrestling crossover podcasts + the most interesting content + the most engaging hosts = the most entertaining podcasts you’ll find!

 MONDAY - Bandwagon Nerds (entertainment & popular culture)

TUESDAY - Musical Chairs (music) / Hockey Talk (NHL)

WEDNESDAY - The Greg DeMarco Show (wrestling) 

THURSDAY - Keeping the news ridiculous... The Oddity / Chairshot NFL (NFL)

FRIDAY - DWI Podcast (Drunk Wrestling Intellect)

SATURDAY - The Mindless Wrestling Podcast

SUNDAY - The Front and Center Sports Podcast 

CHAIRSHOT RADIO NETWORK PODCAST SPECIALS

Attitude Of Aggression Podcast & The Big Five Project (chronologically exploring WWE's PPV/PLE history)

TheChairshot.com PRESENTS...IMMEDIATE POST WWE PLE REACTIONS w/ DJ(Mindless), Tunney(DWI) & Friends

Patrick O'Dowd's 5X5

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