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The Top 10 Missed Opportunities in WWE History

Rey Ca$h returns with help from friend and frequent collaborator Clive to break down 10 of the biggest missed opportunities in WWE history

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Rey: Ladies and gentlemen, boys and girls, chickens, ducks, scamps, scalliwags, and yes…Jim Cornette fans…I’m back!  I know you guys here my oh so un-radio-esque voice once a week on the Outsider’s Edge, but yes, I was originally and still am a columnist!  Right here…on The Chairshot!  (Insert cheap pop).  But no, I’m not alone.  As has become standard, I’ve started a bit of a collaboration with one of my best friends, Familia member, and Scotland’s most dangerous man…from Social Suplex’s The Ricky and Clive Show…Clive!

Clive: That little caveat right at the end there severely hampered my danger credentials. Especially when Ricky is clearly the heel of the outfit. Nevertheless, thanks for the grand introduction, Reymond. 

Rey: Ricky is the face and I’ll hear nothing else to the contrary!  Still, I have you with me, not Rick, and you’re the accomplished writer among the two of us.  So, let’s say we get down with the gettin’ down, eh?

Clive: Please, let’s. With time on both of our sides, it’s not an OPPORTUNITY we want to MISS…..

Rey: It’s gonna be one of THOSE columns, huh…

 

THE TOP 10 MISSED OPPORTUNITIES IN WWE HISTORY

 

Rey:  So let me explain the premise of this here piece of art that me and my brother Clivert are writing.  When we speak about missed opportunities, we’re talking about moments where WWE dropped the ball on something that could’ve been massive.  It could be a storyline, a match, or quite simply a wrestler’s gimmick.  And we’re trying to keep it current, so miss me with your “Roddy Piper should’ve been world champion” messages.  That may be true, but still.

Clive: This idea was your brainchild, Rance. Birthed from a specific example. But there is one more recent than that. One that, probably through recency anti-bias (is that even a term?), sticks in my craw the most. So, if it’s alright with you, good sir, I’d like to get stuck in while the frustration is fresh in my mind. 

 

Enzo and Cass

 

Rey: So, I know it’s not the most popular thing to talk about these two in the current day and age, but revisionist history aside, you can’t ignore how MASSIVELY huge that these two were in their day.  Enzo and Cass were legitimately one of the biggest acts in the business, and they NEVER won.  A very impressive feat, no doubt.  But the frenetic energy of Enzo, the size and strength of Big Cass, and the catchphrases…my God the catchphrases.  What happened here?

Clive: I think we know the answer to that one. Vince saw Big Cass. Looked him up and down, and said “Goddamit, pal!! Look at you!” Probably something Vince has said when looking at the bigger of a tandem throughout history. 

Rey: So I think about this team, and I think about the most successful tag team in the Attitude Era.  No, not Edge and Christian…not The Hardyz, and not the Dudleys.  The New Age Outlaws.  They were created directly from that template.  And they drew money and ratings.  They sold a TON of merchandise, they got good quarter hour numbers, but Enzo lived the gimmick a BIT too much.  That coupled with Big Cass’s oncoming breakdown and mental health and addiction issues, and they became a never was instead of a legendary act.  Damn shame too.  I still laugh at the “Zero Dimes” line from time to time.

Clive: And what did we get out of it? A severely lackluster heel push for Cass (with awful music to boot), and a Cruiserweight Championship run for Enzo which, if people don’t know by now, was not an enjoyable time for Mr 205 Clive. It’s crazy that their exits from the company happened close to each other, but less than eighteen months after seemingly being at the peak of their infallibility. 

 

Braun Strowman at No Mercy 2017

 

Clive: While we’re on the subject of big guys, let me ask you a question. The kind that marks a milestone in life. The wrestling equivalent of “Where were you when JFK was shot?” Or “What were you doing when you found out Princess Diana died?” Rance, I ask you, what were you doing when Vincent Kennedy McMahon shat the bed and did not strike while the iron was red hot by having Braun Strowman beat Brock Lesnar for the WWE Universal Championship at No Mercy 2017?

Rey: Probably writing Roman Reigns and Dean Ambrose fan-fic.  But seriously man, you make Braun losing sound like a national conspiracy or something.  Like he lost because of the Illuminati.  All jokes aside, it may not be as memorable as Princess Di or JFK, but it was still pretty damn egregious.  Braun was as sure of a sure thing that comes around to the Fed, and Vince was like “Nah son, I disagree.”

Clive: I just felt that, after that epic display of brutality at Summerslam, all the momentum in the world was on Braun’s side. Bear in mind this was in the heat of my “Fook Brock” face, and I was being worked silly. But by God did I NEED Braun to win that title.

Rey: I was more insulted with Samoa Joe’s loss, but that’s because I felt that Joe deserved it.  But there’s a huge difference between deserve and need, and Braun absolutely NEEDED to win it.  Yes, Brock was in a bit of a rut.  He was still having good matches, but he was in the heat of his Eat, Farm, Squash, Repeat pattern, and unfortunately Braun had to face the biggest loss of that time.  But hey!  We still got WrestleMania 36, right?!

 

Bray Wyatt VS Triple H

 

Rey: The road to WrestleMania 32 may be the most unfortunate, underutilized, misdirected build in Mania history.  Everybody was injured.  Roman Reigns, who finally won the title to cheers in Philadelphia no less, lost the title in the Royal Rumble match to Triple H.  Dean Ambrose, who’ll be talked about later, was at the peak of his popularity and got a shot at Hunter’s WWE Championship.  Bray Wyatt, with Wyatt Family in tow (sans Luke Harper, who was also injured) had beef with Brock Lesnar.  And then, that one fateful episode of Raw, everything pretty much all changed with one staredown.

Clive: I’m going to throw a spanner in the works here, sir. Undoubtedly, this is another instance of something in WWE being teased without any payoff whatsoever. On this occasion, however, I just don’t think it would have worked if there was a program between the two. I appreciate Bray’s penchant for storytelling, I do. But the story he tells just never floats my boat. It would have been a clash of styles, personally. It would have been a face turn of an entire stable, not something you want to handle just for the sake of a Mania program. I know this is supposed to be a collaborative piece, but I didn’t want the readers to leave reading this without a little dissension within the ranks!

Rey: Only 3 missed opportunities in, and you’re already turning on me. For shame, sir! Nonetheless, you make good points. The prospect of the Wyatts as faces would’ve been dicey, and Bray’s stories do end up being too elaborate often, but it still would’ve been an amazing spectacle. The preeminent cult leader preaching down with the machine versus the heir apparent who has the full power of the machine behind him. At least it would’ve been better than Ambrose VS Lesnar.

Clive: It’s just a personal preference with Wyatt, or lack thereof. Personally, there are a finite amount of wrestlers or outfits who could merge well with a reality bending entity like him. And I don’t think Authority Paul is one of them, I’m afraid. Plus, HHH had beef with Mr Reigns dating way back, so that would have muddied the waters. 

 

Dean Ambrose’s 2016

 

Clive: So, one of my favourite Royal Rumbles is 2016’s. So many moments in that much that it could birth a column in itself. But the icing on the cake would have been the potential shock but very welcome win for Dean Ambrose. It was right there, begging to be done. He was on top of the world. He was lost in a swarm of fans after winning the IC Title a month prior. Earlier that night, he was in Last Man Standing match with Kevin Owens that’s still talked about today. Momentum was all up on Ambrose’s shoulders. Evidently, it wasn’t meant to be, due to other Brock Lesnar shaped plans in mind for the Lunatic Fringe. And…well…..sigh….

Rey: So, I have to say that he really made himself relevant during that time, because he went from having no plans to being last eliminated in the Rumble, a banger of a match with Triple H for the title, and the Lesnar match at Mania. Before we acknowledge the bad, we have to acknowledge the good. Lesnar was slated to face Wyatt. Hunter was gonna have tunnel vision towards Roman. By sheer force of will and audience participation, he changed the entire Road to WrestleMania.

Clive: The title match with HHH has to get a special mention. For purists, that might be the best WWE title match in 2016. It’s certainly up there. It’s just the whole Brock thing. It was one of a good few examples where the story has been told that Lesnar is going to be in for the fight of his life, and we get nothing of the sorts. A hugely anticlimactic end to what was a great build. Ambrose was lucky to keep relevant through spring and into the summer when he won the WWE Title. But then along came what was supposed to be a casual shoot the breeze conversation between two antiheroes.

Rey: That’s the irony of the situation.  If we’re looking on paper, Ambrose had a HUGELY successful 2016.  The aforementioned Lesnar and Triple H matches, and then winning MITB, winning the Shield triple threat, and holding the WWE Championship going into the summer and fall.  And no offense is meant here Clive, but sticking to our fickle nature as fans, we see the entire year almost as a bust because of two really sour spots – the Lesnar match and aftermath and his appearance on the Stone Cold Podcast.  Even the Jericho feud gave us Mitch the plant, and the death of the light up jacket.

Clive: You are spot on. It’s weird that people, myself included, thought Ambrose had a WEIRD 2016 when, by all official metrics, it was a career defining year. I guess it all sort of fizzled out towards the end. And as 2017 rolled on, with him falling down the pecking card, that recency bias doesn’t really pain the year prior in a good light. But still. That f”*”**g Lesnar match. *smashes fist off train window*.

 

Booker T VS Triple H at WrestleMania 19

 

Rey: If we’re talking about disappointment…

*Sigh*

I’ve been on record saying that WrestleMania 19 is probably the best Mania WWE’s ever done.  It’s practically perfect.  5 main events, major stories on the midcard, all time memorable moments in the big matches, and it even has the workrate for the diehards.  It’s practically perfect.  Except for the fact that WWE RAN A STORYLINE WHERE A WHITE DUDE SAID THAT THE BLACK DUDE WASN’T WORLD TITLE MATERIAL BECAUSE HE WAS BLACK AND THE BLACK DUDE LOST THE TITLE MATCH.

Clive: I’m all the way there with you. Mania 19 is my favourite PPV, too. FIVE main event worthy matches? All after one other?! Shieeeeeeiit. BUT, the gutterball in what should have been a row of strikes is the booking for this match. This is another example of what’s turning into a theme of mine in this piece. That WWE told us a story for weeks, if not months, and we got a bad director’s cut that should have stayed on the cutting floor. That story was written so controversially, that surely there is only one acceptable outcome at the show of shows, when adversity is overcome a large chunk of the time. But, no, not this time. For HHH to take several seconds between Pedigree and pin attempt just adds insult to insult, in my opinion.

Rey: That’s the unforgivable sin.  I’m a mark for heels, so I love when they win against all odds.  It’s a fun change of pace for me.  So I could have convinced myself that it was ok.  But there were EIGHTEEN seconds between the Pedigree and the pin.  That’s so many seconds, I had to type out eighteen!  That’s a disrespectful amount of time to be down from a move and still not kick out.  And that was the first Pedigree of the night.  So…yeah.  Finishers should finish matches, but not at the detriment of the person taking it.  Just a deplorable set of events.

Clive: It was pretty disgusting. Listen, Booker T went on to have a wonderful WWE career. And HHH has mended some fences along the way. Not only has he given us a “developmental” brand we all know and love, but he had a black man in Adam Cole as the longest reigning champion in NXT history. That has to count for something. But, in a bubble, that Mania match was a disgrace.

 

The Nexus

 

Clive: I’ll hold my hands up here in saying I wasn’t watching wrestling when this all went down. But when I came back to it, and spent countless hours researching what I missed, this raised the eyebrows, for sure. The Summerslam match specifically was a prime example of the hubris I associate with John Cena and still to this day struggle to see past.

Rey: Kinda ironic that we’re talking about Nexus in the midst of this Retribution angle. I think a major component of these missed opportunities is expectations, right? Every one we’ve talked about has stemmed from a fantastic and mesmerizing beginning. Is there any more fantastic and mesmerizing beginning than Nexus’s debut?

Clive: None than I can think of off the top of my head. Even the Invasion angle, which I was a fan of, didn’t have as strong a first impression as that night on Raw when Nexus ripped the ringside area to shreds. But any impetus they had was cut off very quickly during that Summerslam match. And the nonsense they were dealt on subsequent PPVs too just turned what was initially white hot into a dull flame before the year was out. At least you got a solid 6 months before the ECW/WCW alliance fell to shit.

Rey: You know me pretty well man, so you know I’m not the kind of guy to think that an angle is basically over after one bad moment.  But maaaaaaaaannnnnn, Nexus was done after Cena Hogan’d them, weren’t they?  I actually think that they should’ve lost that match, but the egregious manner in which they did is borderline unforgivable, which hilariously enough is the catalyst of your John Cena hatred.  The stable was always going to be short lived because they didn’t have members with enough credibility for it to work.  Bryan was gone night one, Skip Sheffield aka Ryback destroyed his ankle in Hawaii, Michael Tarver was trash, Otunga still can’t do a wristlock, and Slater and Gabriel needed seasoning.  It just wasn’t going to work long term, but Cena made sure it wasn’t going to work at all.

Clive: Oh, my hatred for John Cena started a loooong time before this Summerslam. But that’s another conversation for another day!

 

The WWE Babyface Conundrum

 

Rey: WWE has a lot of booking issues, and we’re going to talk about two of them in these next two sections.  So let’s look at how they book babyfaces.  Faces are hard to to book in 2020 because of a myriad of issues – fickle fans, size and style differentials, promo issues, etc.  Other than Daniel Bryan, who’s maybe been the most perfectly booked babyface of all time, there have been issues with every WWE babyface this side of John Cena.  I can go down the line.  Johnny Gargano, Sami Zayn, Kofi Kingston, Roman Reigns, etc.  What do you think?

Clive: People might call me biased here, so I’ll preface by saying this person isn’t even my favourite Scottish wrestler. But I’ll be damned if Drew McIntyre isn’t being presented as the best babyface world champion in a long time. Kofi was a close second. But he was CONTINUOUSLY fighting from underneath. Drew has looked STRONG and convincing throughout his reign. Perhaps though, as you’ve just alluded to, it’s because he is being presented how a strong poster boy for the company should be. In contrast to those mentioned above, at least. I wonder if it’s a societal issue. TV shows have evolved into the preferred option over cinema. Part of that is probably down to streaming services. But a lot of it is also down to the “protagonists” of the shows having a very shaky moral compass. Despite their many flaws, we root for these people. I believe that behaviour has transferred over to wrestling; we want the bad guys to win. So, when the good guys are simply fighting the good fight, it comes across as stale. Uninteresting, maybe. We’re always waiting to see which morally compromised wrestler is next, and what they’re going to do. It’s a shame, really, because these faces aren’t necessarily doing anything wrong.

Rey: The disappointing thing is that there are so many pure babyfaces that were turned heel when they were doing great work.  Sami went from a manic ska loving fool to Che Guevera.  Bryan went from Mr. Yes to evil Captain Planet.  Gargano went from the heart of NXT to a deranged version of Mr. Rogers…wait, that’s Bray Wyatt…you get the point.  It’s a really weird thing, and I’m team Heel, so I love their heel versions MUCH better, but it’s still a troubling thing that the only babyfaces that they can effectively push are the ones like Drew.

Clive: I’d personally argue that Daniel Bryan’s Captain Planet shtick saw him in career peak form, so I’m very glad we got to see that. Sami? I don’t really think we’ll be able to articulate how to fix this issue. One of those “it is what it is” deals. I just hope Drew keeps doing what he’s doing. It won’t be long surely before we get some sort of draft. Keep things fresh for him (which they have been so far).

 

The Tag Team Division

 

Clive: Now this one is an interesting one. Until CoVid, I had my need for great tag team wrestling sated, thanks to NXT UK. So the regular gripes people have about either random singles stars put together, proper units being broken up, or too many comedy programs that admittedly litter the main roster don’t anger me as much as it does others. So I’m going to open up the floor to you on this one to spit ya fire.

Rey: Hilariously enough, I don’t have much of an issue with this topic myself.  But it’s extremely apparent that WWE doesn’t value tag team wrestling as a draw.  Now, this DOES NOT mean that WWE doesn’t value tag teams, as they clearly do.  The New Day, Usos, the Street Profits, Undisputed ERA, and most recently, Bayley and Sasha prove that.  However, they have had a storied history of choosing to break up established tag teams to make singles stars, or putting two singles guys together because they have nothing else to do with them (Hi Cesaro!).  And when you look at other companies like AEW, Impact, New Japan…actually, they’re tag division is just as shitty…never mind.  I think you get the point.

Clive: It’s certainly not exclusive to WWE, that’s for sure. I think maybe it’s more obvious just now because Raw specifically has really struggled to make its tag division seem credible, competitive etc. At least Smackdown is mostly about actual wrestling, which I appreciate. I guess…. we don’t actually have much to bleat about on this one!

Rey: Wanna trash FTR a bit?

Clive: Not at all! How dare you!

 

Who Ran Over Roman?

 

Rey: Finally, a storyline we can break down.  Last summer, Roman Reigns was in an on again/off again feud with Samoa Joe, but he started being attacked backstage.  First, somebody tried to drop some heavy lighting equipment on him (fresh with Oscar-worthy acting by Kayla Braxton), but then a week or two later, while Roman was arguing with Samoa Joe, somebody tried to run Roman down.  They hit the car that he just happened to be able to jump in, with Joe frantically worried.  It was a really nice touch, seeing as both men hated each other, but no man wants to see another literally killed.  All of this seemed to be leading up to it being Daniel Bryan, with his minion Rowan doing the dirty work.  Murphy’s random insertion, Rowan’s doppelganger, and a lot of heavy breathing later, everybody just moved on.  What the hell, Clive?

Clive: Rance, answer me this. Do you remember what you were doing when JFK was – you know what, maybe this isn’t a monumental moment in pop culture history. Nevertheless, the buzz around this whodunnit angle was off the charts, personally. When it was looking like Bryan was just a Rowan puppet, you and I wrung our hands in anticipation at the thought of this being drawn out to culminate in an epic showdown between Reigns and DBry at Mania (this must have been around Survivor Series season). The ultimate rematch. The ultimate clash between professional wrestling and sports entertainment. The story wrote itself. Except, the problem was, the story didn’t even get written. Obviously, with CoVid and Roman staying home, it may never have been anyway. But I’m concluding right now that the decision NOT to book this program created some effed up butterfly effect which actually led to that dodgy batch of bat soup around the start of the worst year in history. 

Rey: So first off, I was negative 25 years old when JFK was shot.  Secondly, it was SummerSlam season.  I remember this vividly because the story seemed to be leading to a match between the two at SummerSlam, but both men were left off the Pay-Per-View.  So not only did the story just get dropped (in fact, it was flipped to make Bryan a face again and have the fucking Bludgeon Brothers team back up), but two of the biggest stars in the company and of ALL TIME had to miss the second biggest show of the year.  Man.

Clive: Ah yes, that’s right. And on the SummerSlam pre-show Eric Rowan levelled Buddy Murphy something stinking!! Well, if there is ANY positive at all long term from this, it’s that Murphy was in a camera shot by accident. He got noticed. And now he’s a staple in a… stable. And we’ve been high on Murphy for a long time, so that’s a good thing, right?…..Right?

 

The Hacker

 

Clive: Speaking of Mr Murphy. And in particular, the Ying to his Yang. Mustafa Ali had been on the fringes of the fringes of WWE for 8 months. EIGHT. Things started to look up for him when imagery and, most importantly, the overarching message associated with him was spliced into the whole hacker routine. This went on for months. It made GTV look like child’s play in comparison. It was even paramount in the pay-off of a major angle at WrestleMania, for Allah’s sake! A rejuvenated, possibly repackaged in some form Mustafa Ali was on the horizon. And then? Once again? Nothing. Nada. Zilch. Niente. 

Rey: It’s baffling that they just left it by the wayside.  And you bring up GTV, which is a great comparison because both angles affected major stories.  GTV was the catalyst of the breakup of Eddie and Chyna, and the Hacker exposed Sonya and Dolph’s collusion to keep Mandy and Otis away from each other.  So to see that it was given so much attention, then literally forgotten is massively disappointing.  They still have the possible opportunity to retcon it with this Retribution storyline though.

Clive: It’s a prime example of why I’m pretty cold on this whole Retribution thing. Sure, the visuals are awesome. Who wouldn’t pop for ring ropes being chainsawed to smithereens? But it’s the follow through, or potential lack thereof, that doesn’t see me as invested as I really should be. We’ve seen it with Nexus, which is a very similar scenario. We’ve seen it with the hacker, which fizzled away to nothing. And we’ve seen it with the greatest matchup in all the multiverse being RIPPED from our aching, vulnerable bosoms, Rance! Back on track, if Mustafa Ali was the intended hacker, then could have been really something. But it’s as if doing something which would be taboo in the eyes of law enforcement is hardly ever given an end product. It’s annoying, is what it is!

Rey: That may be the most unforgivable sin out of the whole situation.  The story, had Ali actually have been the hacker, could’ve propelled him to the main event.  And we both know that young man deserves to be there.  Still, as we’ve seen in this list and many situations like what we’re talking about, plans changed.  Brother.

I don’t know about you man, but I’m exhausted.  Talking about negativity just wipes me out in a way that very few things do.  But this had to be done.  We had to break this down, and hopefully, we can have good things again.  Once the world stops being an episode of The Walking Dead.

Clive:: Well, to be honest, I’m reading this not long after watching SummerSlam. Both women’s title matches were excellent. Drew McIntyre is storming into the conversation for having the best strong baby-face world title run since Johnny Boots ‘N’ Tights. And The Big Dog just said to Braun Strowman “I made you. You ain’t a monster unless I’m here.” Which is a major BRUH moment if there ever was one. So I’m in a good mood with WWE right now. That is, of course, until the Retribution angle shits the bed….

Rey: Well, while that may be so, I’m gonna make like the returning Big Dawg and wreck this column and leave.

 

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Chairshot Staff Picks: WrestleMania 41 Las Vegas

Time for The Chairshot personalities to put their money where their mouths are! WreslteMania 41 predictions from the “expert” staff at TheChairshot.com and Chairshot Radio Network.

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Ladies and gentlemen, welcome back to the Chairshot Staff Picks. And what better setting than WrestleMania for this article to return! This 41st edition has one of the most stacked rosters in WWE history. So, without further ado, let us get to the predictions and prognostications…

  • AJ – The New Day
  • Andrew – The New Day – No one seems to hold tag titles long anymore.
  • Dave – The New Day – They have earned it.
  • DJ – The New Day – Feel tha Powah!
  • DPP – War Raiders – Big E distraction.
  • Jason – The New Day – We are not getting E in a working capacity though everyone wants it.
  • Patrick – The New Day – WWE doesn’t care about this match, so why should I?
  • Rey – The New Day – Its a New Day, bruh.
  • Rob – The New Day – New Day rocks and wins!
  • Greg – The New Day – New. Day wins. New. Day wins!

Tunney’s Take: War Machine – Yes, WAR MACHINE. I have personally had the pleasure of throwing back a few cold ones with these guys on more than one occasion. Not only being tag champs in WWE but defending the titles at Mania and against The New Day is really cool for me as a long-time fan. Would it be fun to see The New Day have another title run.. YES. I think it’s smarter to give the War Raiders a big Mania W.

Chairshot Pick: THE NEW DAY 9-2

  • AJ – Jade Cargill
  • Andrew – Jade Cargill – She needs to stay a dominant force.
  • Dave – Jade Cargill – Gotta gear her up for the long term.
  • DJ – No contest – Naomi puts another beat down on Jade.
  • DPP – Jade Cargill – Nervous for how this match will go.
  • Jason – Naomi – Way more runway with Naomi as a bad guy. Keep it going!
  • Patrick – Jade Cargill – Jade gets her revenge.
  • Rey – Jade Cargill – Best non-title feud going. Naomi should win but Jade sneaks by.
  • Rob – Naomi – Naomi gets help to win.
  • Greg – Jade Cargill – They ain’t beating Jade here.

Tunney’s Take: Jade Cargill – I imagine WWE sees Jade’s ceiling much higher than Naomi’s. What better way to keep Jade climbing the ladder towards a World Title than to pick up a decisive victory in Vegas!

Chairshot Pick: Jade Cargill 8-2-1

  • AJ – Jacob Fatu – “AJ does a pretty good LA Knight impersonation” – PC Tunney
  • Andrew – Jacob Fatu – I’m biased, Jacob for President.
  • Dave – Jacob Fatu – Getting gold back in the Bloodline is smart.
  • DJ – Jacob Fatu
  • DPP – Jacob Fatu
  • Jason – Jacob Fatu – Thanks for coming pal, YEAH!
  • Patrick – Jacob Fatu
  • Rey – Jacob Fatu – C’mon cuz! All gas no brakes with it. Yadadamean??
  • Rob – LA Knight – Solo costs Jacob.
  • Greg – LA Knight – Solo screws Jacob.

Tunney’s Take: Jacob Fatu – It has been quite the journey for the Samoan Werewolf. I feel like that journey and the positive turn around it has taken deserves to be rewarded. Let’s see what Jacob can do on his own. Plus, LA Knight is ready to challenge for a World Title.

Chairshot Pick: Jacob Fatu 9-2

  • AJ – Tiffany Straton
  • Andrew – Tiffany Straton – I hate Charlotte Flair, no objectivity here.
  • Dave – Charlotte Flair – Tiffy might be the future, but she kinda failed the litmus test.
  • DJ – Charlotte Flair – The Queen crowns the freshman.
  • DPP – Tiffany Stratton
  • Jason – Charlotte Flair – Tiff wasn’t ready for this spot. Charnos is inevitable.
  • Patrick – Charlotte Flair – Lol Charlotte wins.
  • Rey – Charlotte Flair – Tiffany SHOULD win but, if Charlotte can squash, she will.
  • Rob – Charlotte Flair – Charlotte gets number 15.
  • Greg – Tiffany Stratton – Lol Charlotte wins. (Actually she doesn’t)

Tunney’s Take: Charlotte Flair – Charlotte needs the title for the first time in her career. Tiffy has had a nice run but now needs to take that all important step of not losing momentum after losing the title. Despite the drama and lackluster build here, I see a really good match coming this weekend from these two.

Chairshot Pick: Charlotte Flair 7-4

  • AJ – El Grande Americano
  • Andrew – El Grande Americano – I’d like to see Gable gain some momentum. Rey is Teflon.
  • Dave – El Grand Americano – He needs a marque win much more than Rey.
  • DJ – Rey Mysterio
  • DPP – El Grande Americano – Grande wins with the switcheroo to prove he is not Gable.
  • Jason – Rey Mysterio – Unmask Grande at the end. It is fun but has a shelf life.
  • Patrick – El Grande Americano – TOTALLY NOT CHAD GABLE
  • Rey – Rey Mysterio – Someone’s mask is coming off and it ain’t Rey.
  • Rob – El Grande Americano
  • Greg – Rey Mysterio – Hall of Famer wins but doesn’t take the mask.

Tunney’s Take: Rey Mysterio – Go listen to DWI 471. DP, Greg and I lay out exactly what this match should be, FUN! Multiple Americanos!!!

Chairshot Pick: El Grande Americano 6-5

  • AJ – Jey Uso
  • Andrew – Jey Uso – Kinda booked themselves into a corner here.
  • Dave – Jey Uso – It just makes sense.
  • DJ – Jey Uso – Jey YEETS all over The Ring Genreal.
  • DPP – Jey Uso – Jey wins after normal Gunther beating.
  • Jason – Jey Uso – Land the plane man. YEET
  • Patrick – Jey Uso – Jey has earned this one.
  • Rey – Jey Uso – YEEEEEEEEEEEET!
  • Rob – Jey Uso – YEET
  • Greg – Jey Uso – If Jey loses we riot. We don’t cause he wins.

Tunney’s Take: Jey Uso – ‘Til sweat drop down my balls, ‘Til all these bitches crawl, ‘Til all… YEET YEET YEET YEET YEET YEET YEET YEET YEET YEET YEET YEET YEET YEET YEET YEET YEET YEET YEET YEET YEET YEET YEET!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Chairshot Pick: Jey Uso 11-0

  • AJ – Roman Reigns
  • Andrew – Seth Rollins – I can see Rollins being the last piece of Team Rock.
  • Dave – Roman Reigns – I can’t see Roman losing two years in a row.
  • DJ – Seth Rollins – Paul Heyman is a Seth Freakin Rollins guy.
  • DPP – Seth Rollins – The Rock helps Rollins.
  • Jason – Roman Reigns – Seth’s favor is a red herring. Make-A-Wish Brooks got his main, now look at the lights.
  • Patrick – Seth Rollins – Seth Rollins… Paul Heyman guy.
  • Rey – Seth Rollins – I smeeeeellllllll a new soul to sell.
  • Rob – Roman Reigns – Paul Heyman helps Roman win.
  • Greg – Seth Rollins – Brock Lesnar returns to help Seth win.

Tunney’s Take: CM Punk – I really have no idea here. I picked Punk because nobody else did. This is going to be professional wrestling cinema at its finest. The story is thick and neatly woven. All the participants are legends and so are the potential party crashers. Will The Rock stick his nose in here? Will Brock Lesnar return to play a factor? Obviously, Paul Heyman has a Plan A… but what is it? All these questions and more will be answered Saturday as night 1 will definitely go out with a bang!

Chairshot Pick: Seth Rollins 6-4-1

  • AJ – Iyo Sky
  • Andrew – Iyo Sky – Rhea vs Bianca doesn’t need a belt to be compelling.
  • Dave – Rhea Ripley – Going with Rhea barely, hoping Iyo wins.
  • DJ – Iyo Sky – Unfinished business.
  • DPP – Iyo Sky – Rhea and Bianca are too consumed with each other.
  • Jason – Iyo Sky – More layers to Rhea/Bianca. Iyo rules.
  • Patrick – Iyo Sky – Iyo stole the build and gets the win.
  • Rey – Iyo Sky – Smart money is on the underdog champ.
  • Rob – Iyo Sky – Iyo survives.
  • Greg – Bianca Belair – Naomi helps Bianca win and turn heel.

Tunney’s Take: Rhea Ripley – Rhea is the best women’s wrestler in the world. Give her the biggest win on the grandest stage of them all!!! Bianca needs to go full heel. Iyo has been amazing in this build.

Chairshot Pick: Iyo Sky 8-2-1

  • AJ – Dominik Mysterio
  • Andrew – Finn Balor – I can see a Judgement Day meltdown incoming.
  • Dave – Bron Breakker – Bron is about to become a MegaStar.
  • DJ – Bron Breakker – Judgement Day implodes.
  • DPP – Dominik Mysterio – Finn take the pin.
  • Jason – Penta – I literally do not care because the winner is us, the fans.
  • Patrick – Bron Breakker – The WWE doesn’t care about this matchup, so why should I?
  • Rey – Dominik Mysterio – Only match without a clear winner. I choose chaos.
  • Rob – Bron Breakker – Finn and Dom cancel each other out.
  • Greg – Dominik Mysterio – Dom steals the pin from Bron, on Finn.

Tunney’s Take: Bron Breakker – The case can be made for any of these four to walk away with the most prestigious non-World title in pro wrestling history. The short of it is though that the Main Event picture isn’t really readily accessible for Breakker right now. Let this IC reign go through the summer, to SummerSlam.

Chairshot Pick: Bron Breakker 5-4-1-1

  • AJ – Damian Priest – “AJ does a pretty good Drew impersonation” – PC Tunney
  • Andrew – Drew McIntyre – Priest has not been interesting in this face incarnation.
  • Dave – Drew McIntyre – Time for Drew to get that win back.
  • DJ – Fuck finish – To be continued at Backlash.
  • DPP – Drew McIntyre – Physical matchup!
  • Jason – Drew McIntyre – Either one is fine here.
  • Patrick – Drew McIntyre – With two eyes, Drew turns the tide.
  • Rey – Drew McIntyre – Low key match of the weekend.
  • Rob – Damien Priest
  • Greg – Damien Priest – Priest wins, Drew tweets about it half hour later.

Tunney’s Take: Drew McIntyre – With the addition of the Street fight rules, these two behemoths have a really good chance to have one of the best matches of the entire weekend (winks at Rey Ca$h-A-Mania)! I do wonder what is next for both of these talents moving forward. Priest has staled since leaving the Judgement Day and Drew seems stuck in the same cycle for a while now. Very interested to see what the summer holds for this pair.

Chairshot Pick: Drew McIntyre 7-3-1

WHO WILL BE RANDY’S OPPONENT?!?

  • AJ – Nick Aldis – Orton wins
  • Andrew – Orton and Aldis vs Solo and Tama – Orton and Aldis win
  • Dave – Someone is getting an RKO!
  • DJ – A segment w/ the Wyatt s6cks.
  • DPP – Rusev – Aldis introduces Rusev who defeats Orton.
  • Jason – Nick Aldis – You got one more in ya, bubba. Aldis wins!
  • Patrick – Nick Aldis
  • Rey – Solo then Rusev – Solo in a squash and Rusev MATCHKA(wins)
  • Rob – Nick Aldis – Aldis proves himself, Orton wins.
  • Greg – Nick Aldis – Orton beats Aldis, they shake after.

Tunney’s Take: I would really love to see a singles match between Orton and Aldis. More likely this is some type of involvement with Solo and Tama. Rusev as a surprise challenger would be cool but, I feel that would be better left for RAW. An impromptu Goldberg retirement match would be crazy and fun, yet highly unlikely and illogical. Whatever happens, best believe exactly what Dave Ungar said, “Someone is getting an RKO!”.

  • AJ – Logan Paul
  • Andrew – AJ Styles – Logan doesn’t need the rub and should stay upper mid card.
  • Dave – Logan Paul – It’s the smart move and would be a statement win for Paul.
  • DJ – Logan Paul – Kross gets involved somewhere.
  • DPP – AJ Styles – AJ wins a great high-flying match.
  • Jason – AJ Styles – Just enjoy it or get a beer, nerds.
  • Patrick – Logan Paul – Logan Paul will main-event Mania sooner than later…
  • Rey – Logan Paul – Pass the torch, my wily vet.
  • Rob – Logan Paul – Kross helps Paul win.
  • Greg – AJ Styles – Styles wins after Paul’s cheating backfires.

Tunney’s Take: Logan Paul – Logan seems to really have dedicated himself to becoming great in this business. Anyone with that type of goal must have a World title on their mind. Beating AJ at Mania will be a great springboard for Logan into the Main Event sooner than later (winks at Patrick O’Dowd).

Chairshot Pick: Logan Paul 7-4

  • AJ – Liv & Raquel
  • Andrew – Liv & Raquel – Not really a fan of Lyra, she needs more work.
  • Dave – Liv & Raquel – This Bayley and Lyra team makes no damn sense.
  • DJ – Liv & Raquel – Bayley crashes out.
  • DPP – Liv & Raquel – Bayley continues a potential heel turn tease.
  • Jason – Bayley & Lyra – Finish the story!
  • Patrick – Bayley & Lyra – The WWE doesn’t care about this matchup, so why should I?
  • Rey – Liv and Raquel – Bayley want a title but it ain’t the ones in this match.
  • Rob – Liv & Raquel – Champs retain.
  • Greg – Liv & Raquel – Liv and Raquel retain thanks to Carlito and maybe JD.

Tunney’s Take: Liv & Raquel – Liv and Raquel need to be kept as the cornerstone of the women’s tag division for a lengthier period of time. Building tag teams in this division is difficult enough, let alone without a North Star.

Chairshot Pick: Liv & Raquel 9-2

  • AJ – Cody Rhodes
  • Andrew – Cody Rhodes – They are mentioning it so much, I don’t think 17 happens.
  • Dave – Joh Cena – Record falls and we head to summer with a built-in storyline.
  • DJ – John Cena – Some kind of Final Boss involvement.
  • DPP – John Cena – Cena wins and retires on RAW.
  • Jason – John Cena – Story’s over, “Captain” BIG MATCH JOHN.
  • Patrick – John Cena – A record breaking night for Cena.
  • Rey – John Cena – They’d be really stupid to turn John just to lose. (Post-Mania: Rock, Cena, T Scott, Seth & Drew, TEAM Corporate)
  • Rob – Cody Rhodes – Cody surprises us with the W.
  • Greg – Cody Rhodes – Cody wins to piss off Rock and set the table for Cena to turn back face. Crowd is behind Cena all the way through.

Tunney’s Take: Cody Rhodes – They had me until the threat of retirement. Been there. Done that. Didn’t fall in love with it back then. I love John Cena. I love this final run. John will get his 17th just not here. I expect nothing less than an absolute GEM of a match here to close WrestleMania 41. This has all been, is, and will continue to be about Cody Rhodes. WM40 defeats Roman Reigns. WM41 defeats John Cena. WM42 defeats The Rock (The Final Boss).

Chairshot Pick: John Cena 6-5

In closing I want to thank everyone on the panel for participating with their picks! You can follow each prognosticator/podcaster on X @ the handles below. We wait all year for this so remember three things… be respectful of others, comparison is the thief of joy and HAVE FUN!

  • AJ – @PhenomenalAJB
  • Andrew – @IWCWarChief
  • Dave – @AttitudeAgg
  • DJ – @TheMindlessPod
  • DPP – @itsmeDPP
  • Jason – @JediFett
  • Patrick – @WrestlngRealist
  • Rey – @itsreycash
  • Rob – @rbonne1
  • Greg – @gregdemarco44
  • PC – @PCTunney
  • TheChairshot.com – @ChairshotMedia

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DeMarco: Top 5 Non-Title WrestleMania Matches In WWE History

Not all WrestleMania classics had titles on the line. Dive into the top 5 non-title matches that stole the show & defined legacies. #WrestleMania #WWEHistory

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Not all WrestleMania classics had titles on the line. Dive into the top 5 non-title matches that stole the show and defined legacies.

WrestleMania is the Showcase Of The Immortals, but it’s not always the championship matches that steal the show—or define careers. In fact, some of the most iconic, business-defining, and emotionally resonant contests at the Grandest Stage of Them All didn’t feature a title at all. These matches succeeded because of character work, in-ring execution, and the kind of storytelling that sells tickets and moves merch.

Here are the five best non-title matches in WrestleMania history—at least, according to me!


5. The Rock vs. Hulk Hogan – WrestleMania X8 (2002)

This was never going to be a five-star technical clinic—but it was always going to be the moment. “Icon vs. Icon” was a tagline, sure, but it was also the reality: the biggest star of the ‘80s vs. the biggest star of the Attitude Era. And Toronto turned it into magic. Hogan walked in a heel but walked out immortal (again), with the SkyDome shaking on every punch, every look, every gesture.

What made this work was its self-awareness. Rock and Hogan read the crowd and flipped roles mid-match—Rock became the arrogant aggressor while Hogan Hulked Up to thunderous applause. It’s not often a non-title match headlines a card emotionally the way this one did, but it dominated every headline and highlight reel.


4. Owen Hart vs. Bret Hart – WrestleMania X (1994)

Sibling rivalries don’t usually lead to technical masterpieces, but then again, this wasn’t your average family drama. Owen and Bret opened WrestleMania X with a wrestling clinic that stood tall over a night packed with title changes. Owen needed to prove he was more than Bret’s little brother, and he did it by out-wrestling the best wrestler in the company. Clean. One-two-three.

It wasn’t just a great match—it was perfect storytelling. Owen’s victory, contrasted with Bret’s later world title win, set the tone for an entire year of brother-vs-brother tension. Bret became champion, but Owen had the moral victory—and all the bragging rights. This is proof that opening matches can steal the show.


3. The Undertaker vs. Shawn Michaels – WrestleMania 25 (2009)

If WrestleMania moments could be trademarked, this match would be the reason why. The Undertaker vs. Shawn Michaels wasn’t about championships—it was about legacy. Michaels wanted to be the man who ended The Streak. The build was steeped in biblical imagery: light vs. dark, heaven vs. hell. And the match? Pure perfection. Each man brought everything they had—near-falls, psychology, reversals that had 70,000+ people gasping in unison.

It was 30 minutes of generational storytelling that transcended pro wrestling. And here’s the kicker—it wasn’t even the main event. Yet it dwarfed everything that followed. Meltzer gave it 4.75 stars, fans gave it their hearts, and WWE gave it a sequel the next year. A match so good it forced the company to run it back—because lightning actually struck.

Now, if THIS MATCH is #3, what could possible be #2 and #1…


2. Bret Hart vs. “Stone Cold” Steve Austin – WrestleMania 13 (1997)

This wasn’t just a match—it was the turning point of an era. The Submission Match between Bret Hart and Steve Austin was as violent as it was poetic, with Ken Shamrock enforcing the rules and the Chicago crowd growing more frenzied by the second. The brilliance? The shift. Bret Hart, the traditionalist hero, grew darker and more self-righteous by the second, while the disrespectful anti-hero Austin refused to quit, even when drowning in his own blood. There was no title on the line, but the stakes felt bigger than gold.

The infamous double turn changed the business. Austin’s defiance turned him into the voice of a new generation of fans—blue collar, anti-authority, Attitude Era. Meanwhile, Bret would go on to lead the heel Hart Foundation. WWE didn’t need a championship to create a moment that catapulted Austin into superstardom and ignited the company’s hottest era. This match is business-first booking at its absolute best.


1. Kurt Angle vs. Shawn Michaels – WrestleMania 21 (2005)

Dream matches often disappoint. This one didn’t. At WrestleMania 21, Olympic gold medalist Kurt Angle went hold-for-hold and spot-for-spot with Mr. WrestleMania himself, and together they delivered a masterclass in in-ring psychology. Every sequence had stakes, every near-fall had meaning. It was a stylistic war: Michaels’ heart vs. Angle’s intensity.

Angle forcing Michaels to tap was a statement—it told fans that pure wrestling, not just spectacle, could still main-event caliber storytelling without any need for a title. Michaels sold the ankle lock like death, and Angle’s post-match collapse sold the moment as a hard-fought war. This is the kind of match that keeps purists up at night, smiling, and leaves the storytelling fans like myself as happy as can be!


10 Honorable Mentions (Not Honorable, Just For The Heck Of It)

  • Edge vs. Mick Foley – WrestleMania 22 (2006)
    A hardcore war that solidified Edge as a top-tier main eventer. That flaming table spear is still played in every Edge highlight reel.

  • AJ Styles vs. Shane McMahon – WrestleMania 33 (2017)
    Everyone expected smoke and mirrors—what they got was a surprisingly technical, high-energy opener that kicked off the show right.

  • The Undertaker vs. Triple H – WrestleMania 28 (2012)
    “End of an Era” wasn’t just a tagline. The Hell in a Cell match, with HBK as referee, was a brutal epilogue to a generation’s legacy.

  • Shawn Michaels vs. Chris Jericho – WrestleMania XIX (2003)
    A student-teacher battle of wills. Jericho’s low blow post-match was the perfect heel punctuation to a career-defining contest.

  • Randy Orton vs. Seth Rollins – WrestleMania 31 (2015)
    The greatest RKO of all time. That curb stomp reversal belongs in a museum.

  • Floyd Mayweather vs. Big Show – WrestleMania XXIV (2008)
    More sports-entertainment than wrestling, but a crossover moment that made mainstream headlines and paid off with a great finish.

  • Roddy Piper vs. Adrian Adonis – WrestleMania III (1987)
    A retirement match with big heat, a hot crowd, and Piper walking off into the sunset (for a minute).

  • The Firefly Funhouse Match – John Cena vs. Bray Wyatt – WrestleMania 36 (2020)
    Cinematic weirdness at its best. A meta masterstroke that broke Cena down in layers.

  • Bad Bunny & Damian Priest vs. The Miz & John Morrison – WrestleMania 37 (2021)
    Bad Bunny stunned everyone. He didn’t just belong—he elevated the show.

  • Rey Mysterio vs. Dominik Mysterio – WrestleMania 39 (2023)
    Father vs. son in a grudge match that played perfectly off real-life drama and Hall of Fame weekend emotions.


Some of these matches shaped legacies. Others shifted eras. But all of them proved that the most memorable moments at WrestleMania don’t need a title—they just need truth in the storytelling and fire in the execution.

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