Opinion
The Good, Bad and Ugly: WrestleMania 35 (2019)
WrestleMania is here. The Professional Wrestling Universe has been more than spoiled and now the main course. It is appreciated by many and should be by all, of the sacrifices made by all who worked and participated up to this point, as well as WWE’s best of the best.
WrestleMania is here. The Professional Wrestling Universe has been more than spoiled and now the main course. It is appreciated by many and should be by all, of the sacrifices made by all who worked and participated up to this point, as well as WWE’s best of the best.
As my friend Pat Masters said to me today, this is a special occasion to the Wrestling Community as a whole.
For me it’s bigger than the Superbowl. The Food is served and the beer and wine are flowing.
In the words of the Chairman Vince McMahon, Welcome to WrestleMania!
GOOD
WWE Cruiserweight Championship- Buddy Murphy (C) vs. Tony Nese
Not wasting any time The Kickoff Show opened with a hell of a match. Tony Nese is a perfect opponent against the unorthodox and effective move set of the Champion Buddy Murphy. This was very physical, Murphy having a lot of the control. Buddy Murphy has a lot more experience in big shows and was the ring general here. Nese really took it to him when he got some breathing room. Heavy strikes and some high impact moves that we always have were the spotlight. 205 Live does high risk best and on this scale nothing was held back. The more we get of Buddy Murphy shows that he really is in another league and could better be utilized maybe against some high caliber NXT talent. We saw a lot of really complex stuff here. This was a Great Match! It was over, Nese hit with a Murphy’s Law, but Nese got a foot on the rope. Out of nowhere, Tony Nese got an edge, hitting Murphy with a head of steam with a devastating knee to the back of the head. Tony Nese Wins the long held Cruiserweight Title from Buddy Murphy.
Women’s Battle Royal
Whoever wasn’t watching already will be upset but obviously a lot of people are. This was a draw to a lot of people and a vested part of the event. My pick was Sonya Deville but I would be happy with a few options. Opening strong Nikki Cross went crazy. Maria didn’t last long as she got destroyed and thrown out 1st. Cross got axed by Asuka. Then they just started falling like flies. The crowd started weeding out but the action looked great. It was nonstop and a ton of taunting and reaction. Kairi Sane shut Lana up when was greatly appreciated and the Riott Squad led by Sarah Logan finished her off. Everything was clicking and looked sharp. The Riott Squad shined taking out some of the heavy favorites. Dana Brooke emerged and just leveled the Riott Squad with two huge eliminations of Ruby and Liv. Deville and Mandy Rose teamed up but Mandy was eliminated by Mickie James who then also got eliminated. Deville, Asuka and Logan left, this was awesome action. Some of the best, Deville and Asuka got whacked out and Logan stood last in the ring. Carmella then rejoined but Logan destroyed Mella. It was anyone’s Match but Carmella hit a game changing Superkick to eliminate the Viking Princess of the Riott Squad. Great showing by the Women’s Division. At WrestleMania 35 Mella was $. I’m sure a lot of people were hoping for others to win but Mella got it and it will be fun to see where this goes.
Raw Tag Team Championships- The Revival (C) vs. Zach Ryder and Curtis Hawkins
This will be fast paced and very physical. The Revival and Ryder and Hawkins are amped for this match. This is another treat for the KickOff Show but decent placement given the rest of the card. As expected The Revival had frequent tags and were merciless with their stiff strikes and chops. Zach Ryder took the brunt of the abuse and the Revival shined. While it being WrestleMania you always have it in the back of your mind that anything can happen. It looked over with Zach Ryder just not getting a break from the punishment. Ryder hits a double neck breaker and still no break as Dawson took out Hawkins and made another quick tag. The Revival would only make it harder, not letting up on the beaten Challenger. Zach Ryder rallied for the much needed tag. Hawkins was alive and full strength completely taking control of the match with the crowd loudly behind him. Hawkins and Dawson went down but Ryder was up and waiting for the tag. Zach Ryder again came out hard but it was short lived. The Revival took control again but then it happened Hawkins got the surprise roll up and Won the Raw Tag Team Titles! Anything can happen and Curtis Hawkins not only won for the first time but just beat one of the hardest hitting Tag Team Champions we have had. Ryder and Hawkins Win the Titles!
The Goddess Alexa Bliss presents, The Immortal Hulk Hogan
For me an original Hulkamaniac, you cannot get enough of Hulk Hogan and he is in his element on the grandest stage of them all WrestleMania. It is just a treat and always Good for the show. Hogan will always be magic to some of us.
WWE Universal Championship- Brock Lesnar (C) w/ Paul Heyman vs. Seth Rollins
Before Hogan’s music was even over, Paul Heyman begrudgingly walked to the ring and announced if the match isn’t the Main Event we are getting it out of the way before Lesnar heads to Las Vegas where he belongs. Lesnar marched out ready as ever. Opening Match of WrestleMania is Main Even level for the Universal Championship. Lesnar attacked Rollins before he even entered the ring and gave the Challenger tons of punishment including an F5 on the outside. Lesnar brutally beat Rollins all around the ring, the match hasn’t started yet. Brock wouldn’t let up not giving Rollins a second to recover. The bell has rung officially as Rollins wasn’t even standing yet. Lesnar then took Rollins lifeless body to Suplex City. Rollins hit Lesnar into the ref and got a low blow. The ref back in Rollins hit the beast hard. The Stomp gave Rollins time to regain himself again. Another stomp but Rollins still not full steam. A 3rd stomp Rollins Wins the Universal Championship! Oh my God! That was insanity! Good stuff and a little bit shocking how it all went down! This was a hell of a Good moment for Rollins and the wrestling audience. The Beast is Freakin’ Conquered.
AJ Styles vs. Randy Orton
Orton and AJ are high pressure performers. Orton got the upper hand and control early on and proceeded to methodically tear apart AJ Styles. This was a well paced match with Good energy all around as both guys just work at such a high level. Styles would come back and put on a fight gaining some momentum but Orton is always one step away from getting it back. When Orton turns it on he is vicious but AJ Styles expertise makes him even more dangerous. Both guys were beaten down and completely exhausted, it could have been either guy’s match. It looked like Orton had the win after a devastating Superplex but Styles kicked out and the match continued. Orton had went for the RKO, Styles kicked Orton and got a full moon rollup, but ended up in an RKO. AJ Styles kicked out! Orton completely freaked out went to RKO off the top to Styles but got countered and Pele Kicked out of the ring. Styles matched it by hitting a Phenomenal Forearm over the Top to the outside hitting Orton. Orton countered almost hitting an RKO but Styles escaped hitting another Phenomenal Forearm this time getting the hard fought win! Good Match for what it was!
SmackDown Tag Team Championships- The Usos (C) vs. Ricochet and Aleister Black vs. Shinsuke Nakamura and Rusev w/ Lana vs. The Bar
The Belts are on the line and it is anyone’s match. The Bar has tasted the Gold, Ricochet and Black are hungrier than ever after a legendary performance at Takeover this past Friday against the War Raiders. Nakamura and Rusev have had their share of success and Gold as well. All are big players on the big stage. This is money. This has to be surreal for Aleister Black and Ricochet after all they have done lately to be in a Tag Team Championship Match at WrestleMania is extraordinary. There were lots of blind tags and tons of back and forth. Every team got some time in control. Highlight early on were some sick exchanges with Cesaro and Ricochet. The Bar shined and got control momentarily. Cesaro torqued back with a textbook Sharpshooter but it was broken up. Again it was anyone’s match. Rusev destroyed Ricochet just manhandling him. Somehow after a giant full on slam off the top involving everyone in the match, Ricochet from atop the group rolled out unscathed. Ricochet hit a “630” on Sheamus but was broken up by everyone! Everyone then took each other out with their respective kicks to the face. Sheamus was standing tall until the Usos Superkicked the life out of him. The Usos then hit a game changing Double Splash on Sheamus for the victory, retaining the SmackDown Live Tag Team Championships! This was unexpected but what a strong Good match no matter your feelings of the Winning team.
Falls Count Anywhere Match- The Miz vs. “The Greatest in the World” Shane McMahon
The Best in the World Shane McMahon no matter what happens is going to be doing some stunts that will make you question his sanity. This heel Shane is playing is over the top here which is actually both effective and warranted. The Miz who never is a babyface is has the crowd behind him. His Father front and center, Miz is here to kill it. There is some Good heat here and can and will happen. Things started off shaky. Shane throwing horrible strikes that rarely connected and looked cheap. After the initial cat and mouse it went downhill. Shane beat down Miz most of the beginning mostly kicks and strikes. After Shane got going things looked a lot stiffer and a lot better. Shane got Miz on an announce table and Shane got on the top. Miz’s Father blocked between them but Shane changed his mind. Shane invited Miz’s Father into the Match who then entered the ring. Things went from Bad to Worse here as everything involving Miz’s Father looked terrible and was just cringe worthy. The Miz came in hot though and picked things up. However Miz then tended to his Dad instead of continuing the fight. This is just weird and awkward. Miz then kicked it back up again taking the fight back into the audience right after Shane. Miz wiped the floor with McMahon, using all the space he could find to punish Shane. The action picked up as well as the overall feel of the match. Shane and Miz were doing fantastic raising the bar. They were warmed up and things went crazy. Shane was taking huge bumps getting killed by the Miz. Shane would manage to kick out though and continue to fight with the Miz. Here we go, Shane climbing camera platforms and getting ready for chaos. Shane was cornered with nowhere to go beaten down, begging. Miz took it farther Superplexing Shane off a high up platform through a stage. This was the big finale, as Shane was on top of Miz as a result of the Extreme Superplex, and Shane got the 3 count without even knowing it. This was a strong finish with insane action that over came after a horrible start. The ending was very Good though therefore, another one for the Good column.
Women’s Tag Team Championships- Sasha Banks and Bayley (C) vs. IIconics vs. Beth Phoenix and Natalya w/ Bret The Hitman Hart vs. Nia Jax and Tamina Snuka
The IIconics gear, Wow! Besides that everyone looked ready! This is a very big match and very important to the Women’s Division. Big shoutout to the genius work the Mikaze did on Banks and Bayley’s gear also it looks fantastic. The common enemies here were Tamina and Nia Jax which was a Good strategy as they are the powerful team of the group. The IIconics were iconic and showed the world that they are game for the big show as much as anyone. Both Royce and Kay did very well and showed a ton of poise on the grand stage. With the Gold on the line, there were frequent tags and tons of combinations of talent going at it. It was non-stop and plentiful action. Natalya pulled off a Double Sharpshooter on the Tag Champs but got dropped by Tamina. Jax and Snuka back in it pulverized their opponents. The Glamazon was taken out quickly and the IIconics followed. Last was the Tag Team Champions Boss N Hug. Tamina and Nia Jax looked to finish the job but it was broken up by Beth Phoenix. After resting a moment Banks and Bayley looked like they had the win but Phoenix kicked out and proved hard to beat. Phoenix grabbed up Bayley and hit a Glam Slam off the top, but The IIconics jumped in, dropped out Beth Phoenix and stole the 3 count. The IIconics Win the Tag Team Championships! This was awesome! Congrats to the IIconics on a great match and a huge achievement. Your new Women’s Tag Team Champions the IIconics!
WWE Championship Match- Daniel Bryan (C) w/ Rowan vs. Kofi Kingston w/ New Day
New Day showed up correctly for the Big Night for their friend and brother Kofi Kingston. Daniel Bryan at the ready to defend his Eco-Friendly Title. Kofi had the whole world behind him and fully confident he was walking out the Champ. This was a classic, well done technical match with a ton of action. Both men showed their guts and strengths to achieve clinic like offense. Kofi came out with some unique big moves to gain advantage but Daniel Bryan killed it as well. Kofi took one to many risk crashing hard into an announce table opening the door for a painful beating by Daniel Bryan. Bryan preyed on the hurt Kofi Kingston taking the dangerous Challenger down and out. Kofi would not quit constantly fighting for his spot. Daniel Bryan and Kofi Kingston fought to the point of exhaustion but still kept fighting. Eventually strikes became a full on brawl then back and forth, with both guys almost scoring pinfalls. It was constant counters the Challenger and Champion badly wanting to win. Daniel Bryan calling for the Yes chant getting back full No’s. Kofi hit an SOS but got hit into the “LeBell Lock.” Kofi escaped but the damage was done. Daniel Bryan did everything right but Kofi just was overwhelming. Just as Rowan got involved New Day neutralized him. Kofi had his chance but was smashed by the flying knee strike by Bryan but still managed to kick out. Daniel Bryan viciously stomped Kofi’s face into the mat. Bryan locked in the LeBell Lock again but Kofi still managed to fight back. Kofi hit the Trouble in Paradise and finally got the 3 count! Kofi Kingston is your new WWE Champion at KofiMania!
United States Championship- Samoa Joe (C) vs. Rey Mysterio
This would be a nice touch to the career of Rey Mysterio but at what cost. Samoa Joe will for sure be physically impossible to beat without taking a horrendous beating. Mysterio has his hands for with Samoa Joe let alone at WrestleMania. This is speed for brutal power. Speaking of which after kicking the face right off Mysterio to start out, Mysterio didn’t hold back and got him down quick. However Samoa Joe overpowered the smaller foe and locked in a match ending Coquina Clutch for the decisive, impressive victory absolutely squashing the Lucha legend. Joe retains the US Title. This was quick but no complaints, just kind of unnecessary and would have worked on the preshow.
Roman Reigns vs. Drew McIntyre
Two guys skyrocketing to the top of the WWE food chain and absolutely similar in roles. These two big guys have to go through each other first to get there. McIntyre has been on a tear and strongly gaining favor for his tremendous presence. Roman Reigns is now a solid fan favorite and hero for his courageous fight for his life. He now can focus on gaining his spot at the top again. Either way this will be big and physical. We will see pure power and brutality. WWE spared no expense on pyro welcoming back Roman to his ring. Classic big guys match no surprises but everything coming out right. It looked sharp, control going back and forth. McIntyre got the edge and went with it for a while wearing down the already tired Reigns. Again though both men jocked for position. After a huge slap to the face, Reigns went off going on a tear on McIntrye hitting move after move ending the series with a huge Spear for the Victory!
ELIAS
Elias had a wonderful set up doing some really cool things going crazy on his guitar. That is when magic happened. A sick Babe Ruth video overshadowed the event followed by a GOAT in his own right, as “Basic Thuganomics” blasted over the speakers and John Cena “Ruthless Aggression” took center stage and overtook the entire show! This was awesome, period! Cena just announced that Elias rap style that he is about to turn heel and dis-tracked Elias completely burying him. Cena hit a 5-Knuckle Shuffle into an AA (FU) before heading out. Cena stole it with some “Ruthless Aggression” it was a great WrestleMania moment!
No Holds Bar (HHH’s Career Match)- HHH vs. Batista
Batista looked right at home like he never left, which is hard to do, especially on a stage like WrestleMania. It was Good to see him prowling like an animal. HHH showed up like only he knows how too. He is The Game, the King of Kings, the Boss, he demands respect and will beat the ever loving hell out of you if he has too. This got crazy violent. HHH went bat shit crazy on Batista straight torturing him at times. This was old school Game, HHH absolutely savage, even ripping Batista’s nose ring out with pliers. Batista is an Animal though and had some bad intentions of his own. Batista had HHH beat but still HHH kept going, fighting for his career. HHH got under Batista and Powerbombed him onto the steps in the ring, followed it up with a Pedigree, but Batista kicked out at two! Ric Flair made a special delivery to HHH with a sledge hammer then taunted Batista before HHH hit him with a the SledgeHammer and a Pedigree for the extremely hard fought victory!
Kurt Angle’s Final Match- The Olympic Champion Kurt Angle vs. Baron Corbin
This is it, the end of an era. My wife is from his hometown and has met him many times. Kurt Angle the class act from Pittsburgh is bidding farewell on the grandest stage. Corbin beat Angle down, the crowd was silent at times. Corbin managed to come back every time Angle got some momentum. Corbin even hit a Deep 6 but only for a two count. Corbin countered by kicking out of the Olympic Slam. Angle then locked in the Ankle Lock but escaped before mocking John Cena and getting Germans again by Angle. The crowd on their feet Angle climbed to the top but missed the Moonsault. Corbin hit an End of Days and finished The Olympic Champion clean, ending his career with a loss. Good Match, thank you Angle!
Intercontinental Championship- Bobby Lashley (C) w/ Lio Rush vs. Demon Balor
Running low on time and the Demon in tow coming up for this, it is expected to be a short match. Lashley has been so impressive since Lio Rush has been his hype man. Lashley wasn’t a mic man and it seems to have alleviated a ton of pressure letting him focus on dominating opponents. However this isn’t an opponent, it’s a curse, The Demon has come for the Gold. Lashley fought like a man possessed and didn’t let the Demon control him. The Demon however overpowered Lashley with a huge PowerBomb followed by a Coupe De Grace for the Victory! The Demon Finn Balor is your 2 time Intercontinental Champion!
“Winner Take All” WWE Women’s SmackDown and Raw Championship- Ronda Rousey (C) vs. Becky Lynch vs. Charlotte Flair (C)
Here we go! When the Man comes around you better be ready. You bet the ladies brought the pain clubbing and slamming each other around. Rousey took a sick bump to the outside from a slide by Becky Lynch. Constant back and forth everyone trying to end the match quickly. All three did everything they could do to win. This was Rousey’s best match by far. She was focused and on point with her strikes and moves. Charlotte and Becky teaming on here was a great touch. Everyone was exhausted, out of breath, and beaten. It didn’t stop Charlotte from hitting a Spanish Fly on Becky Lynch for a two count. Flair got the figure 8 on Rousey until Lynch missiled in breaking it up. So many near falls here on out, Flair getting the most attempts and close calls. They left it all out there. With Charlotte knocked out of the ring, it was finally Lynch vs. Rousey. Rousey destroyed Lynch but hurt and stumbled, Lynch rolled Rousey out of a Piper’s Pit for the Win! Becky Lynch is the Champion! It is over! What a WrestleMania, what an ending! Great Show!
BAD- No, almost flawless. Clean, Good Show! WrestleMania Worthy!
UGLY
Andre The Giant Memorial Battle Royal
This is a treat usually in a way because you see so much talent. This time around however it was a mess. Weak strikes, over the top literally, and a bit corny. SNL Fame didn’t help and in fact having them finally face off with Braun at the end was unforgiving. This was just horribly ugly. It’s a shame. It’s not that Strowman won but some of the missed opportunities and rush job that this mess was overall. A little early for the Ugly column already, the show hasn’t even started yet.
FINAL
Good- 17
Bad- 0
Ugly-1
OVERALL
WrestleMania was Good as hell! This show delivered largely in part of the tremendous talent and momentum heading into the Biggest Night in Sports Entertainment. The crowd was so hot and appreciated the tremendous spectacle that their favorite Superstars put on for them. This was a spectacle and was tremendously successful. What a WrestleMania. This is such a special night and of course for all fans will always be a part of our lives and memories forever. This was a Good WrestleMania and a Good night to be a Wrestling Fan!
There we have it and the World will move forward. This was an historic night during an historic event. So many big things and changes ahead. Let the Good times roll! Catch you on the next PPV for more Good, Bad and Ugly only on thechairshot.com.
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Chris King: Defend The Intercontinental Championship At Backlash!
With WWE Backlash upon us, Chris King wants to see Penta defend the Intercontinental Championship in Tampa!
With WWE Backlash upon us, Chris King wants to see Penta defend the Intercontinental Championship in Tampa!
This year’s annual Backlash showcase is only a few days away, and while there are many big matches announced, one that definitely should be isn’t on the card. In my opinion, outside of Roman Reigns/Jacob Fatu and Seth Rollins/Bron Breakker, the Intercontinental Championship scene has been stellar over the last month.
Penta has been an excellent champion, especially after his triumphant title defense in a ladder match against JeVon Evans, Rusev, Dragon Lee, and the Hall of Famer Rey Mysterio at WrestleMania 42. Their ladder match at Mania was one of the best that WWE has produced in a while.
The momentum never stopped, as on the post-Mania episode of Monday Night Raw, ‘All Ego’ Ethan Page made his debut and was quickly inserted into the Intercontinental title scene. Page had a fantastic showing against his longtime NXT rival Evans and picked up a big win in his debut match thanks to an assist from Rusev.
All Ego immediately joined forces with ‘The Bulgarian Brute’ Rusev, who was also vying for the Intercontinental Title in his own right. On this week’s episode of Raw, Page and Rusev defeated Evans and Penta. All Ego pinned the champion, making a huge statement and putting him one step closer to getting a title shot. For the past few weeks I’ve been anxiously waiting to see if WWE was going to add this incredible fatal four-way match for the Intercontinental Championship, but it hasn’t happened yet.
As much as the WWE Universe enjoys witnessing great matches on free television, I truly believe all four superstars deserve the chance to showcase their talents on the PLE. While Penta has done a terrific job as the intercontinental champion, it’s time for a fresh face to hold the prestigious title. Page would make a great braggadocious heel that would help elevate the Intercontinental Championship to new heights!
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Our Chairshot Take – Releases, Forbidden Door, Women’s Wrestling, LFG, and The Bloodline
Welcome to Our Chairshot Take! This week, 5 of your favorite contributors answer questions about the WWE releases, the Forbidden Door alliance, women main eventing WrestleMania, wrestling competition shows, and The Bloodline!
Welcome to Our Chairshot Take! This week, 5 of your favorite contributors answer questions about the WWE releases, the Forbidden Door alliance, women main eventing WrestleMania, wrestling competition shows, and The Bloodline!
Welcome to a new weekly wrestling column featuring some of your favorite Chairshot contributors (and some outside of Chairshot as well) – Our Chairshot Take! Every week, we’ll have 5 contributors answer 5 of the most interesting, intriguing, and relevant questions that you want answers too. Please, feel free to tell us why we’re right or wrong, and most importantly, let us know YOUR take! And don’t forget, #AlwaysUseYourHead!
How do you think professional wrestling companies should handle releases?
Greg: It’s hard, because personally I don’t know how they could do it any better. It’s the wrestling media who jumps on the news–and they’re just doing their job. As Booker T says, don’t hate the playa, hate the game. For wrestling news, that’s the game. Plus, some talents are going to tell the media, and that’s their prerogative.
So instead, I offer you some other solutions:
Come up with a longevity threshold where a talent can keep their name. Call it 6 years. We released Apollo Crews? He can go and be Apollo Crews elsewhere. WWE still retains ownership over the name, but they provide him permission to use it. Because, yes, they owned it and developed it, but he made it real. Let him keep it alive, if he chooses to.
Guarantee main roster deals for two years. In the case of Aleister Black, it’s easily plausible that 3-6 months from now, we’ll all see a glaring hole that he could have filled. Some things take time to get right.
Finally, leverage that TNA partnership. Keeping with the same example, imagine sending Aleister Black & Zelina Vega to TNA as a shocking surprise. It helps everyone. Work out something where TNA covers a portion of the contract. Elevate the partnership, and rise that tide that raises all ships.
Andrew: The way they’re done now is fine. There’s no pomp and circumstance for normal people when they get fired, and some traditional sports stars find out they’re traded or cut because of ESPN. Wrestling ain’t special or fancy. News nowadays is about first out, not moral high ground. Deal with it.
Kyle: Unless someone asked for their release, there really isn’t a good way to handle it. Inevitably, there will always be a section of fans who are unhappy with one of their favorite stars being released. That being said, I do think it’s generally good business to grant releases to people who ask for them, and I’m definitely not a fan of adding time onto someone’s contract who no longer wants there just because they may have been injured at some point.
Karl: I’ve never been a big fan of the announced releases. I think it brings too much unwanted attention to the employees during an already difficult time. I’m not one to defend a corporate entity either, and it’s no secret that companies fire and hire employees all the time on a daily basis whether for good reasons or bad. That said, I would find it better, or perhaps more palatable that releases are done quietly with little drawn attention. Allow that privacy for the employee being released. If they want to announce that they’ve been let go, that should fall to them, not on wrestling journalists looking for a scoop.
Rob: There should be no leaks before the wrestlers themselves are told by the companies. And I’d give people a chance to ask for theirs if they want to leave before we make any roster decisions.
Has the Forbidden Door alliance – AEW, CMLL, and New Japan – worked?
Greg: For who??? That’s rhetorical, and it’s also the point. AEW’s “strategic partnerships” haven’t benefited anyone other than AEW. Look at New Japan today: struggling. Bouncing the title around to see who sticks. Konosuke Takeshita was a perfect option for IWGP Heavyweight Champion. Didn’t have it long enough to gain traction. Send people out on longer tours, let them truly impact someone else’s business. THAT is how you build a strategic partnership.
Yes, no one from TNA has held a WWE NXT Championship outside of the Hardys. And yes, someone should. Jordynne Grace and Joe Hendry signed with WWE? It was always going to happen. At least TNA got some bump out of it. Guess what? Mike Santana and Leon Slater are gonna sign at some point, too. But their presence in WWE NXT helps TNA.
AEW’s partnerships — TNA, New Japan, and CMLL — have only benefited AEW. And that’s now how this is supposed to work.
Andrew: Hahahahahaha, oh, you’re serious? NJPW has become a farm system. Their main event scene has been in tatters and I’ve seen rats leave a sinking ship slower. NJPW went from arguably the second biggest company in the world to a footnote in where a new person comes from to the general audience. Also, AAA has been more relevant in the conversation of wrestling media in the last 6 months, as compared to CMLL in the last 5 years. This Alliance is the Go Bots of pro wrestling. Discount, K-Mart, wannabe super group, that is about as significant as Damnocracy.
Kyle: It’s worked out for AEW, but I don’t think it’s really worked for CMLL and especially not for New Japan. I can’t remember the last time that NJPW has been down as bad as they are right now. The “alliance” such as it is essentially functions as a way for AEW to test the reactions that foreign talent receive and decide whether or not to poach them from CMLL or New Japan by throwing money at them.
Karl: I don’t particularly follow these companies, but I think the answer is probably somewhere between yes and no. Defining what would make the alliance successful would be the best way to break it down. What were the goals? If the goal was to get a million dream matches on the docket, I think it’s a success. It’s a great way to get wrestling matches you couldn’t always get otherwise. If the goal was some monetary gain or bringing eyes to compete with the big dog on the block, then it’s probably less of a success. So with that, I’d probably say it’s both successful and unsuccessful depending on what your expectations were/are of the idea.
Rob: For AEW, absolutely. They’ve gotten to use people from New Japan for various things. I don’t know if it’s worked great for New Japan given how many people AEW has signed that were theirs first. CMLL has gotten to use some AEW talent on their shows so I’d call that a win for them.
What will it take for there to be another women’s main event at WrestleMania?
Greg: Intent. That’s it. It’s a quick answer. “We put the most deserving match in that spot” is a bullshit cop out. You have the ability to book and showcase the product based on your plans. If you come out of every WrestleMania with the non-negotiable that women will be in the main event of one night of WrestleMania, then you will make it happen.
You build guardrails and parameters to follow. It’s not rocket science. I book my local independent and I have had women in the main event multiple times, and had a woman win our annual Rumble and use that to win our Heavyweight Championship. I made it happen because I had an intentional plan: before, during, and after. And that’s on the indies!
It can be done, you just have to want to do it.
Andrew: A compelling story and the ability to draw the crowd in. Anyone who thinks workrate matters is a fool. If Gina Carano and Ronda Rousey had their match at Mania instead of a Netflix special, THAT would’ve headlined the show. We are a long way away from any personalities being Earth shattering enough to move a main event needle. Maybe when Bianca Belair comes back from pregnancy, but that depends on her dance partner.
Kyle: It would have to be both the right combination of major stars and a strong story that the crowds are invested in. If anyone on the current roster who’s healthy could pull it off, it’s probably Rhea just because she’s massively over still.
Karl: Given the ownership group, a miracle probably. I just don’t think that TKO understands the company they own. This isn’t anything new. We see it time and time again when larger corporations purchase companies just to have more assets on their balance sheet. The quality dips because suits have hijacked what made the product great in the past. Wrestling is no different. That’s not to say that having women main event WrestleMania is the exact thing that makes wrestling great, but the idea that anyone can get to the top, or break down a barrier, especially in sport (scripted or otherwise) is part of what makes entertainment in this format so wonderful. I don’t trust the people in charge to have their finger on the pulse of what makes wrestling great, so therefore, I think even if the women’s stories demanded top billing, they wouldn’t get it anytime soon. I’ll be happy to be wrong.
Rob: The men’s side will have to clear out a bit. As long as Roman, Cody, and Punk are still there, forget it. Especially now that Oba will be there as soon as next year and Trick is coming up. Throw in Seth and Randy, and those spots are taken for the foreseeable future. To even get in the conversation though, they have to book some kind of compelling story between two or three women that rivals what the men at the top are doing. That requires treating one or two women as equals to Rhea creatively, even if they aren’t as popular, and not just booking for pops and title wins on big 4 PLEs.
Why do you think the winners of wrestling competition shows aren’t usually successful?
Greg: The most important word in the phrase “wrestling competition show” is the last one: show. It’s a show first, a true competition later. Pumping out true successful talent isn’t actually it’s job. it’s job is to payoff for whoever is paying for the show. That’s driven by results: viewers and advertising dollars. A&E doesn’t care of Shiloh Hill main events WrestleMania unless it means more financial payoff for their investment in WWE LFG. I do think we are too quick to thrust talent into a primary role after winning. Give them time.
For my eyeballs? I’d rather see true reality style coverage, think NFL Hard Knocks, or schools like Cody Rhodes’ Nightmare Factory and Booker T’s Reality of Wrestling. With the WWE machine behind it, it can work. But in the current format, it doesn’t exist to put out TV ready talent–that’s what Evolve and NXT are for.
Plus, who is making the decisions in the end? If it’s not Triple H, Bruce Prichard, Michael Hayes, and Tony Khan (for AEW, obviously), then it doesn’t matter who wins.
Andrew: Because they aren’t wrestlers. Why aren’t most American Idol winners successful? Talent does not equate to understanding the business you want to be in. We all know of music artists we wish were more well known, but they don’t understand the game well enough to play it. It’s easy to fake it for 8 weeks on camera; it’s another thing to have the determination and resolve to live it 24/7.
Kyle: I think most of the competition show winners aren’t successful because the writing team for the competition show and the creative team for the wrestling show usually aren’t the same. Add to that the fact that the winners of these shows are usually rushed to television too soon because the company wants to capitalize on the popularity of the show, and you have a recipe for a lot of winners ending up released sooner rather than later. Arguably the most successful wrestling competition show winner was John Morrison, who won Tough Enough III, and he was given a couple of years to develop in OVW and wasn’t put on TV until he was ready and creative had something for him. Most winners don’t get that opportunity to grow, and thus, they end up failing in the long run.
Karl: Much like the winners of American Idol or The Voice don’t typically amount to a hill of beans, I see wrestling competition shows in the same vein. Sure, you’ll have the occasional standout, but it’s just really hard to be consistently great at anything without working at it. On a competition show, you’re all in, all the time, because otherwise you’re going home. But what happens when you win that show? Does the drive stay high? It can be difficult I think, because once you’re in the door, you’re no longer looked at as someone special. You’re now just like everyone else. Or, the flip side, you’re put under the bright lights too quickly and it doesn’t work. Not to mention, there are people in the locker room who have been working their whole life for this thing you achieved in a matter of months. It’s going to naturally devolve into jealousy by your peers. I think competition show winners fall prey to the pressure of sustained success.
Rob: Winning the competition isn’t the same as succeeding in the real world. The competition is a closed space and its own entity. Just like how Star Search and American Idol winners are often not the most successful people from their group.
Has the Bloodline storyline jumped the shark?
Greg: In a word: no.
In a few words: absolutely hell the freak not.
In more words: do you know what the phrase “jump the shark” actually means? Look it up. It comes from the old TV show Happy Days, where Arthur Fonzarelli, aka “The Fonze” and “Fonzie,” actually jumps over a shark on his motorcycle. After that, the show was never really the same again. Jumping the shark was the moment. That’s what it means.
Now circle back to The Bloodline. What’s their “jump the shark” moment? There isn’t one! Are we producing “cinema” like the height of the Sami Zayn story? No, not at all. But we haven’t jumped the shark. Instead, we’ve evolved. Roman Reigns’ ascension back to the world title saw Jimmy & Jey Uso get slowly infused back into the fold, but what did Roman do after? He said that they now stand together. They are more equal now. There’s no wiseman, there’s no outlier Sami Zayn character, no solo as the right hand man.
It hasn’t jumped the shark, it’s evolved. And I want to see where it goes next.
Andrew: Bloodline should’ve been dead when Jacob and Solo split. I don’t think there’s been anything egregious enough to imply it “Jumped the Shark,” as in, a desperation ploy to keep it going. But it’s just outlasted it’s welcome. While Roman will always be my OTC, and I’ve been ride or die with the Werewolf and G.O.D., we can stop dragging it on into perpetuity. Let people go their own ways without a reference every other month, and no more Honorary Usos. That LA Knight shirt was ALMOST a shark jump…but the angle was so insignificant in the grand scheme of things, it didn’t matter enough to even register anywhere near the Island of Relevancy.
Kyle: I watched Jacob Fatu put the Tribal Chief in a Tongan Death Grip. You’re not gonna catch me in these streets disrespecting any of the Polynesian wrestlers or their storylines. I don’t want NONE of that smoke.
Karl: The Bloodline story is probably running out of juice, for a lot of the same reasons big time storylines run out of juice. There’s not much left to squeeze. There are only so many ways you can take a story. You can try to keep it fresh, and on a smaller scale, you can run into the old nWo problem of too many cooks in the kitchen. The Bloodline ran with a lot of new members, and new introductions. It helped build some of them to important status, but at a certain point, new pathways need to be created for all involved. You can always revisit what made the stories great. I’ve always thought the way the Shield was handled post-break up has been well done. Callbacks here and there to what made them great, to what broke them apart, etc., were always fun ways to remind the fans, but continuing with the angle will always fall flat, especially with how short the attention span of most people can be.
Rob: It all depends on whether or not they have some good enemies this year. If they’re just running back all of the bits they did last time then yes. But if they can find some new things to do, then they’ll be fine.
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Andrew – @IWCWarChief
Kyle – @OutsidersEdgeCS
Karl — @OutsidersEdgeCS
Rob – @rbonne1
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