Opinion
The True Crown Jewel: JIMMY RAVE!
Crown Jewel is the topic of the day, and is one of the most polarizing in quite a while. But does it compare to the real Crown Jewel…JIMMY RAVE?
I don’t know about you guys, but I’m sick & tired of anything & everything having to do with WWE’s Crown Jewel event. It’s going down today, and I’m so ready for the whole thing to be over. I think everybody is. Those of us that are disgusted that WWE went forward with the event, took the Saudi blood money and even brought back noted racist Hulk Hogan for the occasion are ready to move on. Those of us that don’t see the big deal with any of those things & think that WWE is bringing hope & change to the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia are ready to move on as well.
This isn’t the first time that the phrase “Crown Jewel” has conjured up negative emotions from wrestling fans. When I think of the term, my mind goes back to 2005, when I was attending my first Ring of Honor show in Dayton, Ohio. It was Part Two of ROH’s Third Anniversary Celebration. We went up to the Montgomery County Fairgrounds after hearing some positive hype about the company & many of the talents. My girl Traci Brooks was on the card, which was pertinent to my interests. Also, AJ Styles was booked in the main event, and we were familiar with him from his work in TNA. Based on the crowd reaction most of the people were drawn there by AJ.
The Crown Jewel of The Embassy
Styles was wrestling this fella by the name of Jimmy Rave. At the time, I wouldn’t have been able to recognize Jimmy Rave if he was wearing a name tag that said “HI MY NAME IS Jimmy Rave”. He may have been on an episode of Impact getting squashed. I knew he wasn’t one of the sacred cows of ROH’s largely workrate-obsessed fanbase. While most ROH matches got endless amounts of stars from their fans, Rave’s were typically met with disdain.
I quickly figured out why ROH fans had a hateon for Jimmy. The over the top entrance with Rave’s manager Prime Nana ordering the valet to drop to all fours so Rave could use her as a footstool getting into the ring was a good heat-getter. (Imagine doing that in 2018!) The action was fine, but Rave wasn’t a smooth technician, amazing high flyer or strong style practitioner. He was a solid wrestler, which by ROH fan standards was unacceptable.
Then he beat AJ Styles. By using hair spray. There were few things that mid-2000s Internet smarks hated more than screwjob finishes. Especially via something outdated like hair spray. We were deflated by the result. The Crown Jewel of the Embassy had come out on top. JIMMY RAVE, AH!
It was the right booking move though. (Nice work, Gabe.) Styles was a part-timer with ROH & over enough with the fans that one loss to Jimmy Rave wasn’t going to affect him. He wasn’t on the Chicago Ridge show the next night. Rave was, against that market’s hometown hero, CM Punk. It was the beginning of a feud between Punk & Rave that would further establish Rave as one of ROH’s most hated characters. I remember being pissed that Traci Brooks took a Rave Clash from Jimmy and never came back to ROH. Of course, my beef was more with CM Punk than Jimmy Rave over that, but that’s neither here nor there.
A True ROH Heel
Jimmy Rave ended up being a staple of the ROH shows I would attend in Dayton over the next few years. The highlight being his victory in the 2006 Trios Tournament as part of an Embassy team with Alex Shelley & Abyss. He never failed to get a proper heel reaction, which was nearly impossible to get in early Ring of Honor.
ROH catered to Internet smarks, who are prone to cheering for the best wrestlers regardless of their face/heel status. Christopher Daniels was good at being a heelish character, but he was such a great wrestler that ROH fans were inclined to cheer him anyway. CM Punk was good at being a heelish character, but he was such a great promo that ROH fans were inclined to cheer him anyway. Bryan Danielson’s run as a heel champion was awesome except for the fact that ROH fans treated him like Hulk Hogan in the 1980s.
The following years haven’t been any better. The SCUM era was the by-product of guys who wanted to be cool heels. Bullet Club has always been about being cool heels that sell merchandise (and doing a damn good job of it, so more power to them). Ring of Honor has been littered with heels that didn’t want to be “a goddamned heel, motherfucker”, to quote Bruce Prichard quoting Jim Cornette. But you can’t blame them too much, as they were working for fans that liked cheering heels anyway.
Jimmy Rave found the magic formula for being a heel in Ring of Honor. Don’t give the fans too much. Steal finishing moves from top stars & claim them as your own. Let your manager do the talking for you. Don’t do anything that makes the smarks think “OK, this guy’s actually pretty good.” I think many of us have evolved to the point where we recognize this type of approach as actually being the right way to do things as a heel…but then I look on social media and realize that I’m probably wrong.
Shower him with presents
Once Japanese stars started coming into ROH on a regular basis & people threw streamers for them, it was only a matter of time before the practice spread to the American wrestlers. Jimmy Rave didn’t deserve streamers…but he did deserve toilet paper.
JIMMY RAVE!!!
-Fans throw toilet paper in the ring and scream "Die Jimmy Die!" pic.twitter.com/XaVksKXES5— Blakiyama Jun (@jevanshistory) September 21, 2018
Dalton Castle has the best entrance in Ring of Honor history as far as I’m concerned, but Jimmy Rave & the toilet paper probably makes the top five. It was such a pure hatred between the ROH fanbase & Jimmy Rave. I don’t think we see enough of this in 2018. We certainly don’t in Ring of Honor. The most effective heel in that company right now probably has to be Bully Ray. That would be fine if Ray wasn’t more than a decade older than Jimmy Rave. I’d feel a lot better about the future of wrestling heels if the best heel in wrestling was younger than Jimmy Rave.
This is the part where somebody tells me that Tomasso Ciampa is younger than Jimmy Rave. Child please. That guy’s a total babyface to the NXT smarks. They soak his act up like cat nip when he’s not wrestling Johnny Gargano. And now that Gargano’s heel, forget about it. There isn’t that guy out there now that everybody hates. Well, maybe Austin Aries, but that’s more behind the scenes than in front of the cameras.
Wrestling needs a Crown Jewel. Not the one WWE is offering us today. We need the next Jimmy Rave. Hell, we need the current Jimmy Rave.
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Opinion
Our Chairshot Take – Releases, Forbidden Door, Women’s Wrestling, LFG, and The Bloodline
Welcome to Our Chairshot Take! This week, 5 of your favorite contributors answer questions about the WWE releases, the Forbidden Door alliance, women main eventing WrestleMania, wrestling competition shows, and The Bloodline!
Welcome to Our Chairshot Take! This week, 5 of your favorite contributors answer questions about the WWE releases, the Forbidden Door alliance, women main eventing WrestleMania, wrestling competition shows, and The Bloodline!
Welcome to a new weekly wrestling column featuring some of your favorite Chairshot contributors (and some outside of Chairshot as well) – Our Chairshot Take! Every week, we’ll have 5 contributors answer 5 of the most interesting, intriguing, and relevant questions that you want answers too. Please, feel free to tell us why we’re right or wrong, and most importantly, let us know YOUR take! And don’t forget, #AlwaysUseYourHead!
How do you think professional wrestling companies should handle releases?
Greg: It’s hard, because personally I don’t know how they could do it any better. It’s the wrestling media who jumps on the news–and they’re just doing their job. As Booker T says, don’t hate the playa, hate the game. For wrestling news, that’s the game. Plus, some talents are going to tell the media, and that’s their prerogative.
So instead, I offer you some other solutions:
Come up with a longevity threshold where a talent can keep their name. Call it 6 years. We released Apollo Crews? He can go and be Apollo Crews elsewhere. WWE still retains ownership over the name, but they provide him permission to use it. Because, yes, they owned it and developed it, but he made it real. Let him keep it alive, if he chooses to.
Guarantee main roster deals for two years. In the case of Aleister Black, it’s easily plausible that 3-6 months from now, we’ll all see a glaring hole that he could have filled. Some things take time to get right.
Finally, leverage that TNA partnership. Keeping with the same example, imagine sending Aleister Black & Zelina Vega to TNA as a shocking surprise. It helps everyone. Work out something where TNA covers a portion of the contract. Elevate the partnership, and rise that tide that raises all ships.
Andrew: The way they’re done now is fine. There’s no pomp and circumstance for normal people when they get fired, and some traditional sports stars find out they’re traded or cut because of ESPN. Wrestling ain’t special or fancy. News nowadays is about first out, not moral high ground. Deal with it.
Kyle: Unless someone asked for their release, there really isn’t a good way to handle it. Inevitably, there will always be a section of fans who are unhappy with one of their favorite stars being released. That being said, I do think it’s generally good business to grant releases to people who ask for them, and I’m definitely not a fan of adding time onto someone’s contract who no longer wants there just because they may have been injured at some point.
Karl: I’ve never been a big fan of the announced releases. I think it brings too much unwanted attention to the employees during an already difficult time. I’m not one to defend a corporate entity either, and it’s no secret that companies fire and hire employees all the time on a daily basis whether for good reasons or bad. That said, I would find it better, or perhaps more palatable that releases are done quietly with little drawn attention. Allow that privacy for the employee being released. If they want to announce that they’ve been let go, that should fall to them, not on wrestling journalists looking for a scoop.
Rob: There should be no leaks before the wrestlers themselves are told by the companies. And I’d give people a chance to ask for theirs if they want to leave before we make any roster decisions.
Has the Forbidden Door alliance – AEW, CMLL, and New Japan – worked?
Greg: For who??? That’s rhetorical, and it’s also the point. AEW’s “strategic partnerships” haven’t benefited anyone other than AEW. Look at New Japan today: struggling. Bouncing the title around to see who sticks. Konosuke Takeshita was a perfect option for IWGP Heavyweight Champion. Didn’t have it long enough to gain traction. Send people out on longer tours, let them truly impact someone else’s business. THAT is how you build a strategic partnership.
Yes, no one from TNA has held a WWE NXT Championship outside of the Hardys. And yes, someone should. Jordynne Grace and Joe Hendry signed with WWE? It was always going to happen. At least TNA got some bump out of it. Guess what? Mike Santana and Leon Slater are gonna sign at some point, too. But their presence in WWE NXT helps TNA.
AEW’s partnerships — TNA, New Japan, and CMLL — have only benefited AEW. And that’s now how this is supposed to work.
Andrew: Hahahahahaha, oh, you’re serious? NJPW has become a farm system. Their main event scene has been in tatters and I’ve seen rats leave a sinking ship slower. NJPW went from arguably the second biggest company in the world to a footnote in where a new person comes from to the general audience. Also, AAA has been more relevant in the conversation of wrestling media in the last 6 months, as compared to CMLL in the last 5 years. This Alliance is the Go Bots of pro wrestling. Discount, K-Mart, wannabe super group, that is about as significant as Damnocracy.
Kyle: It’s worked out for AEW, but I don’t think it’s really worked for CMLL and especially not for New Japan. I can’t remember the last time that NJPW has been down as bad as they are right now. The “alliance” such as it is essentially functions as a way for AEW to test the reactions that foreign talent receive and decide whether or not to poach them from CMLL or New Japan by throwing money at them.
Karl: I don’t particularly follow these companies, but I think the answer is probably somewhere between yes and no. Defining what would make the alliance successful would be the best way to break it down. What were the goals? If the goal was to get a million dream matches on the docket, I think it’s a success. It’s a great way to get wrestling matches you couldn’t always get otherwise. If the goal was some monetary gain or bringing eyes to compete with the big dog on the block, then it’s probably less of a success. So with that, I’d probably say it’s both successful and unsuccessful depending on what your expectations were/are of the idea.
Rob: For AEW, absolutely. They’ve gotten to use people from New Japan for various things. I don’t know if it’s worked great for New Japan given how many people AEW has signed that were theirs first. CMLL has gotten to use some AEW talent on their shows so I’d call that a win for them.
What will it take for there to be another women’s main event at WrestleMania?
Greg: Intent. That’s it. It’s a quick answer. “We put the most deserving match in that spot” is a bullshit cop out. You have the ability to book and showcase the product based on your plans. If you come out of every WrestleMania with the non-negotiable that women will be in the main event of one night of WrestleMania, then you will make it happen.
You build guardrails and parameters to follow. It’s not rocket science. I book my local independent and I have had women in the main event multiple times, and had a woman win our annual Rumble and use that to win our Heavyweight Championship. I made it happen because I had an intentional plan: before, during, and after. And that’s on the indies!
It can be done, you just have to want to do it.
Andrew: A compelling story and the ability to draw the crowd in. Anyone who thinks workrate matters is a fool. If Gina Carano and Ronda Rousey had their match at Mania instead of a Netflix special, THAT would’ve headlined the show. We are a long way away from any personalities being Earth shattering enough to move a main event needle. Maybe when Bianca Belair comes back from pregnancy, but that depends on her dance partner.
Kyle: It would have to be both the right combination of major stars and a strong story that the crowds are invested in. If anyone on the current roster who’s healthy could pull it off, it’s probably Rhea just because she’s massively over still.
Karl: Given the ownership group, a miracle probably. I just don’t think that TKO understands the company they own. This isn’t anything new. We see it time and time again when larger corporations purchase companies just to have more assets on their balance sheet. The quality dips because suits have hijacked what made the product great in the past. Wrestling is no different. That’s not to say that having women main event WrestleMania is the exact thing that makes wrestling great, but the idea that anyone can get to the top, or break down a barrier, especially in sport (scripted or otherwise) is part of what makes entertainment in this format so wonderful. I don’t trust the people in charge to have their finger on the pulse of what makes wrestling great, so therefore, I think even if the women’s stories demanded top billing, they wouldn’t get it anytime soon. I’ll be happy to be wrong.
Rob: The men’s side will have to clear out a bit. As long as Roman, Cody, and Punk are still there, forget it. Especially now that Oba will be there as soon as next year and Trick is coming up. Throw in Seth and Randy, and those spots are taken for the foreseeable future. To even get in the conversation though, they have to book some kind of compelling story between two or three women that rivals what the men at the top are doing. That requires treating one or two women as equals to Rhea creatively, even if they aren’t as popular, and not just booking for pops and title wins on big 4 PLEs.
Why do you think the winners of wrestling competition shows aren’t usually successful?
Greg: The most important word in the phrase “wrestling competition show” is the last one: show. It’s a show first, a true competition later. Pumping out true successful talent isn’t actually it’s job. it’s job is to payoff for whoever is paying for the show. That’s driven by results: viewers and advertising dollars. A&E doesn’t care of Shiloh Hill main events WrestleMania unless it means more financial payoff for their investment in WWE LFG. I do think we are too quick to thrust talent into a primary role after winning. Give them time.
For my eyeballs? I’d rather see true reality style coverage, think NFL Hard Knocks, or schools like Cody Rhodes’ Nightmare Factory and Booker T’s Reality of Wrestling. With the WWE machine behind it, it can work. But in the current format, it doesn’t exist to put out TV ready talent–that’s what Evolve and NXT are for.
Plus, who is making the decisions in the end? If it’s not Triple H, Bruce Prichard, Michael Hayes, and Tony Khan (for AEW, obviously), then it doesn’t matter who wins.
Andrew: Because they aren’t wrestlers. Why aren’t most American Idol winners successful? Talent does not equate to understanding the business you want to be in. We all know of music artists we wish were more well known, but they don’t understand the game well enough to play it. It’s easy to fake it for 8 weeks on camera; it’s another thing to have the determination and resolve to live it 24/7.
Kyle: I think most of the competition show winners aren’t successful because the writing team for the competition show and the creative team for the wrestling show usually aren’t the same. Add to that the fact that the winners of these shows are usually rushed to television too soon because the company wants to capitalize on the popularity of the show, and you have a recipe for a lot of winners ending up released sooner rather than later. Arguably the most successful wrestling competition show winner was John Morrison, who won Tough Enough III, and he was given a couple of years to develop in OVW and wasn’t put on TV until he was ready and creative had something for him. Most winners don’t get that opportunity to grow, and thus, they end up failing in the long run.
Karl: Much like the winners of American Idol or The Voice don’t typically amount to a hill of beans, I see wrestling competition shows in the same vein. Sure, you’ll have the occasional standout, but it’s just really hard to be consistently great at anything without working at it. On a competition show, you’re all in, all the time, because otherwise you’re going home. But what happens when you win that show? Does the drive stay high? It can be difficult I think, because once you’re in the door, you’re no longer looked at as someone special. You’re now just like everyone else. Or, the flip side, you’re put under the bright lights too quickly and it doesn’t work. Not to mention, there are people in the locker room who have been working their whole life for this thing you achieved in a matter of months. It’s going to naturally devolve into jealousy by your peers. I think competition show winners fall prey to the pressure of sustained success.
Rob: Winning the competition isn’t the same as succeeding in the real world. The competition is a closed space and its own entity. Just like how Star Search and American Idol winners are often not the most successful people from their group.
Has the Bloodline storyline jumped the shark?
Greg: In a word: no.
In a few words: absolutely hell the freak not.
In more words: do you know what the phrase “jump the shark” actually means? Look it up. It comes from the old TV show Happy Days, where Arthur Fonzarelli, aka “The Fonze” and “Fonzie,” actually jumps over a shark on his motorcycle. After that, the show was never really the same again. Jumping the shark was the moment. That’s what it means.
Now circle back to The Bloodline. What’s their “jump the shark” moment? There isn’t one! Are we producing “cinema” like the height of the Sami Zayn story? No, not at all. But we haven’t jumped the shark. Instead, we’ve evolved. Roman Reigns’ ascension back to the world title saw Jimmy & Jey Uso get slowly infused back into the fold, but what did Roman do after? He said that they now stand together. They are more equal now. There’s no wiseman, there’s no outlier Sami Zayn character, no solo as the right hand man.
It hasn’t jumped the shark, it’s evolved. And I want to see where it goes next.
Andrew: Bloodline should’ve been dead when Jacob and Solo split. I don’t think there’s been anything egregious enough to imply it “Jumped the Shark,” as in, a desperation ploy to keep it going. But it’s just outlasted it’s welcome. While Roman will always be my OTC, and I’ve been ride or die with the Werewolf and G.O.D., we can stop dragging it on into perpetuity. Let people go their own ways without a reference every other month, and no more Honorary Usos. That LA Knight shirt was ALMOST a shark jump…but the angle was so insignificant in the grand scheme of things, it didn’t matter enough to even register anywhere near the Island of Relevancy.
Kyle: I watched Jacob Fatu put the Tribal Chief in a Tongan Death Grip. You’re not gonna catch me in these streets disrespecting any of the Polynesian wrestlers or their storylines. I don’t want NONE of that smoke.
Karl: The Bloodline story is probably running out of juice, for a lot of the same reasons big time storylines run out of juice. There’s not much left to squeeze. There are only so many ways you can take a story. You can try to keep it fresh, and on a smaller scale, you can run into the old nWo problem of too many cooks in the kitchen. The Bloodline ran with a lot of new members, and new introductions. It helped build some of them to important status, but at a certain point, new pathways need to be created for all involved. You can always revisit what made the stories great. I’ve always thought the way the Shield was handled post-break up has been well done. Callbacks here and there to what made them great, to what broke them apart, etc., were always fun ways to remind the fans, but continuing with the angle will always fall flat, especially with how short the attention span of most people can be.
Rob: It all depends on whether or not they have some good enemies this year. If they’re just running back all of the bits they did last time then yes. But if they can find some new things to do, then they’ll be fine.
Greg – @GregDeMarco44
Andrew – @IWCWarChief
Kyle – @OutsidersEdgeCS
Karl — @OutsidersEdgeCS
Rob – @rbonne1
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Chris King: Too Soon For Seth Rollins vs. Bron Breaker?
Is WWE Backlash too soon for Bron Breakker vs Seth Rollins? Chris King weighs in!
Is WWE Backlash too soon for Bron Breakker vs Seth Rollins? Chris King weighs in!
‘The Visionary’ Seth Freakin’ Rollins and Bron Breakker opened Monday Night Raw in an extremely intense face-off. Both superstars traded barbs at each other. Rollins, being the veteran, was trying to show the young up-and-comer Breakker that he isn’t ready to become the next big-money superstar in the WWE. Breakker told his former Vision leader that he never needed him and got sick and tired of fighting Rollins’ battles.
Rollins threw out the challenge for Backlash, but I am questioning whether it’s wise to give away the one-on-one match so early. Breakker made his shocking return at WrestleMania, taking out Rollins and costing him the match against Gunther.

The following night Breakker broke his rival in two, delivering two massive spears. Last week, The Street Profits returned to help Rollins against The Vision, and that made me believe WWE was heading in a different direction. I was thinking that WWE should book The Vision vs. The Street Profits and Rollins in a six-man tag team match, but this week, Montez Ford said that they didn’t return for Rollins and they want the tag team titles. Rollins will face Breakker in a highly anticipated singles match at Backlash, where I am predicting Rollins to get the win. I can easily see Rollins’ fourteen years of experience getting the better of the young up-and-comer to outsmart him.
While The Street Profits attempt to win the championships from Austin Theory and Logan Paul, I don’t see a title change happening anytime soon. If that’s the case, then I can see Rollins and The Street Profits teaming up in a few weeks or possibly at Night of Champions. This would also extend the rivalry between Rollins and Breakker all the way into SummerSlam, where Rollins will take the loss. I am happy that WWE didn’t rush this and add it to the Mania card because now this feud has time to develop properly.
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