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Andrew’s Top 10 Matches: Week Ending 2/14/2021
It’s a Top 10 this week, so you know things got interesting! NJPW, NOAH, Impact and NXT had big shows. What took home some top spots?
It’s a Top 10 this week, so you know things got interesting! NJPW, NOAH, Impact and NXT had big shows. What took home some top spots?
First things first, it’s time to declare the first match into the MOTY pool. Barely edging out Kazuchika Okada vs Will Ospreay – Shingo Takagi vs Hiroshi Tanahashi is the January winner!
Even though the top two matches were New Japan, I was happy to see every match got a some support. So that’s always nice to see some love for the entire pool. Oh yeah, last week’s winner has to be announced too; NXT: Tommaso Ciampa & Timothy Thatcher vs The Undisputed Era, but just like I said last week; there are honorable mentions as good if not better than this one. So a weak first week should make for an interesting pool considering how stacked this week is!
Now let’s get to this week shall we?
Quick Top 10:
- DDT Kawasaki Strong: KO-D Openweight Championship: Tetsuya Endo (c) vs Jun Akiyama
Rating: **** 1/2 - NXT: Vengeance Day: North American Title: Johnny Gargano (c) vs Kushida
Rating: **** 1/2 - NOAH: Return to Destination: GHC Junior Heavyweight Championship: Daisuke Harada (c) vs Seiki Yoshioka
Rating: **** 1/4 - NXT: Vengeance Day: NXT Championship: Finn Balor (c) vs Pete Dunne
Rating: **** 1/4 - Impact Wrestling: No Surrender: X-Division Championship: TJP (c) vs Rohit Raju w/Shera
Rating: **** - NXT: Vengeance Day: MSK vs Grizzled Young Veterans
Rating: **** - NOAH: Return to Destination: GHC Heavyweight Championship: Go Shiozaki (c) vs Keiji Mutoh
Rating: **** - NJPW New Beginning in Hiroshima: IWGP Heavyweight & Intercontinental Championship: Kota Ibushi (c) vs SANADA
Rating: **** - AEW Dynamite: Falls Count Anywhere: Lance Archer & Jon Moxley vs Kenny Omega & KENTA
Rating: **** - NOAH: Return to Destination: Jun Akiyama & Naomichi Marufuji vs Kaito Kiyomiya & Yoshiki Inamura
Rating: ****
Honorable Mentions:
- Impact No Surrender: Triple Threat Revolver Match: Trey Miguel vs Ace Austin vs Willie Mack vs Blake Christian vs Suicide vs Chris Bey vs Josh Alexander vs Daivari
Rating: *** 3/4 - NJPW New Beginning in Hiroshima 2.10: IWGP Junior Heavyweight Championship: Hiromu Takahashi (c) vs SHO
Rating: *** 3/4 - NOAH Return to Destination: GHC Junior Tag Team Championship: Kotaro Suzuki & Hidaka Ikuto vs Stinger (HAYATA & Yoshinari Ogawa) (c)
Rating: *** 3/4 - NXT Vengeance Day: Raquel Gonzalez & Dakota Kai vs Ember Moon & Shotzi Blackheart
Rating: *** 1/2 - NOAH Return to Destination: GHC National Championship: Kenoh (c) vs Masakatsu Funaki
Rating: *** 1/2 - Impact No Surrender: Impact World Tag Team Championship: Private Party w/ Matt Hardy vs Beer Guns vs The Good Brothers (c)
Rating: *** 1/2 - NJPW New Beginning in Hiroshima 2.11: NEVER Openweight 6 Man Titles: CHAOS (YOSHI-HASHI, Hirooki Goto & Tomohiro Ishii) (c) vs Bullet Club (Jay White, Tama Tonga, Tanga Loa) w/Gedo & Jado
Rating: *** 1/2 - NOAH Return to Destination: Sugiura-Gun ( Takashi Sugiura, Kazushi Sakuraba, Kazuyuki Fujita, Kendo Kashin, NOSAWA Rongai & Kazunari Murakami) vs KONGO (Masa Kitamiya, Haoh, Nioh, Tadasuke, Manabu Soya & Katsuhiko Nakajima)
Rating: *** 1/4 - IMPACT!: Willie Mack, Trey Miguel, Josh Alexander & Suicide vs Ace Austin, Daivari, Blake Christian & Chris Bey
Rating: *** 1/4 - NJPW New Beginning in Hiroshima 2.10: Master Wato vs BUSHI
Rating: *** 1/4 - Impact No Surrender: Impact World Heavyweight Championship: Rich Swann (c) vs Tommy Dreamer
Rating: *** 1/4 - NXT Vengeance Day: NXT Women’s Championship: Io Shirai (c) vs Toni Storm vs Mercedes Martinez
Rating: *** - NJPW New Beginning in Hiroshima 2.10: Bullet Club (ELP, Taiji Ishimori, EVIL, Yujiro Takahashi & Jay White) vs CHAOS (YOSHI-HASHI, Kazuchika Okada, Hirooki Goto, Toru Yano & Tomohiro Ishii)
Rating: *** - Impact No Surrender: Eddie Edwards & Matt Cardona vs Brian Myers & Hernandez
Rating: *** - NOAH Return to Destination: Shuhei Tanijuchi & Muhammad Yone vs Masato Tanaka & Masaaki Mochizuki
Rating: *** - NJPW New Beginning Hiroshima 2.11: Bullet Club (El Phantasmo, Yujiro Takahashi & Taiji Ishimori) vs LIJ (Tetsuya Naito, Hiromu Takahashi & BUSHI)
Rating: *** - AEW Dynamite: Leyla Hirsch vs Thunder Rosa
Rating: *** - Impact No Surrender: Susan, Deonna Purrazzo & Kimber Lee vs ODB, Jordynne Grace & Jazz
Rating: *** - NJPW New Beginning in Hiroshima 2.10: Yuya Uemura, Gabriel Kidd & Yota Tsuji vs Minoru Suzuki, El Desperado & Yoshinobu Kanemaru
Rating: ***
5t. NOAH: Return to Destination: Jun Akiyama & Naomichi Marufuji vs Kaito Kiyomiya & Yoshiki Inamura
Akiyama started off for a while, since he wanted to size up both of these new generation members. NOAH was built around Akiyama, as a protégé of the Four Pillars and the unofficial fifth Heavenly King he is the remaining measuring stick to test the new generation out in the Giant Baba AJPW dojo style. And did he ever put them through their paces. Akiyama’s Sternness gimmick was back in full force as he challenged Inamura’s power and Kiyomiya’s spirit.
Inamura got the first feather in his cap when he was able to win the power struggle with Akiyama, but Kiyomiya wasn’t so lucky. Akiyama dismantled his arms and put him through the paces. Akiyama hinted towards the Exploder a few times, even hitting the normal version, never his signature Wristclutch variation. Marufuji on the other hand felt like he was the guiding hand to see what Akiyama felt. Marufuji’s moves were crisp, and he punished the younger wrestlers at time, but the tension and crowd got audibly excited when Akiyama mixed it up with any of them.
Kiyomiya managed to eat a True Tiger King, Hook Kick and even get out of the Perfect Key Lock before finding his second wind. Coming off the ropes, he connects with a Headbutt to Marufuji and NOAH’s Genius stayed rocked. A German Suplex set the stage and a Tiger Suplex Hold won the match.
Winner: Kiyomiya via Tiger Suplex Hold
5t. AEW Dynamite: Falls Count Anywhere: Lance Archer & Jon Moxley vs Kenny Omega & KENTA
Archer drags Omega up, knuckle locks and goes up the corner to walk it Old School! For the MOONSAULT!! Cover, TWO!! Omega survives but Archer is just getting angrier! Archer puts Omega in a corner, hoists him up, inverted crucifix, but Omega slips off! The Good Brothers rush out to help Omega but Archer just DECKS them both! Kenta gets back in, spins Archer around, BACK HAND! Archer doesn’t even flinch! Kenta BACK HANDS again, then runs, into a BOOT! Anderson gets in, but Archer choke grips and CHOKE- GUN STUNS!! Anderson hits Archer, but Jake reels him in to SHORT ARM CLOTHESLINE! Gallows gets in, to HELL STAB Jake!
Jake gasps for air against ropes and Omega grins as he takes aim! Omega says BANG, but he runs into Moxley’s BARBED WIRE BAT! Moxley starts swinging for the fences on the Good Brothers!! The refs get Jake away but Kenta fireman’s carries Moxley for GO TO SLEEP! Archer CLOBBERS Kenta! Archer grabs Omega, and then grabs Kenta! But the DOUBLE LOW BLOW! Legal in this match, and then Good Brothers give Archer MAGIC KILLER!! Omega adds on the V-TRIGGER! Omega drags Archer up, Electric Chairs, but Archer is too big! The Good Brothers help him get Archer up, to hit the ONE WINGED ANGEL!! Cover, Bullet Club wins!!
Winner: Omega via One Winged Angel
5t. NJPW New Beginning in Hiroshima: IWGP Heavyweight & Intercontinental Championship: Kota Ibushi (c) vs SANADA
They start off with some slow mat based wrestling, which feeds into Ibushi’s usual style of wanting to wrestle his opponent’s strength. The problem is; that SANADA is a very balanced wrestler. So even if he’s proficient on the mat, he’s still not one dimensional.
After SANADA has a little advantage, then we get into a strike exchange which favors Ibushi. So both men are trading shots. Ibushi tries to end things early after Last Ride and the first Kamigoye attempt, but SANADA counters with his own Knee Strike and then we get a few Skull End attempts. A missed Moonsault gives Ibushi an opening again, so we see the return of the Lawn Dart! Ibushi then goes for the outside in rope assist German Suplex, but SANADA thankfully fights back, gets him on his shoulders and TKOs him onto the floor outside.
There’s a good bit of back and forth, SANADA attempts a few Japanese Leg Clutch variations, shakes off two padded Kamigoyes and looks to be making a surge until Ibushi just catches him, then rocks him with an exposed V-Trigger, followed by the exposed Kamigoye.
Winner: Ibushi via Kamigoye
5t. NOAH: Return to Destination: GHC Heavyweight Championship: Go Shiozaki (c) vs Keiji Mutoh
There were great callbacks from both men in this match. Ironic callbacks when Shiozaki charges Mutoh on the ramp to land a move is cute. Mutoh went after Go’s legs to build off his victory from earlier this month. Shining Wizard stunned Shiizaki in the ropes, and then a Dragon Screw while he was hung up was clever. Mutoh lands an Emerald Flowsion for only two. The previous victories of a Figure Four from Mutoh and Moonsault from Shiozaki weren’t enough to win this match but build well.
Toward the end of the match things did get dicey, but it’s hard to call them botches. Mutoh failed on the first attempt to Emerald Flowsion, but he failed on the initial scoop, so he dropped him and sold exhausted. Shiozaki had a scary Avalanche Brainbuster, but aside from looking dangerous was completely fine. Also we can look at the moment Mutoh half his the backbreaker and looked like he was going to Moonsault, but didn’t pull the trigger. Again, hard to tell if that was him not feeling like he could pull it off, so he audibled, or if it was supposed to get the crowd excited to see a Mutoh Moonsault post knee surgery.
As Shiozaki looked to end things, connecting with a Lariat and then winding up for a Gowan Lariat, Mutoh jumped, Hurricanrana and flash pinfall! Shiozaki’s reign ends to a flash pin from a legend and Shiozaki is beside himself.
Winner: Mutoh via Hurricanrana
5t. NXT: Vengeance Day: MSK vs Grizzled Young Veterans
Tag to Carter, he goes up top, and Lee tags back in. SWANTON BOMB and TORNILLO SENTON! Cover, TWO?!?! Drake survives and MSK is in shock! Lee tags Carter, Carter brings Drake back up, and Lee runs, only for Gibson to dump him out! Drake clubs Carter, Gibson Electric Chair lifts Lee on the outside, Drake builds speed! TOPE DOOMSDAY SUICIDA!!! The fans are electric for “NXT! NXT!” again! GYV regroup to go after Carter but Carter ROCKS Drake! Carter DECKS Gibson but Drake CLOBBERS Carter! Tag to Gibson, and he drags Carter up. Carter still fires off fists and CHOPS on GYV!
Gibson ROCKS Carter, hoists him up for Drake, POWERBOMB BACKSTABBER! Cover, TWO!!?!? How is Carter doing this?! Drake has to exit but he wants to finish this. Gibson sits Carter up and shouts, “You are in over your head!” Gibson SLAPS Carter, tags Drake, and then feeds Carter to the gut wrench. But Lee pushes Gibson away to save Carter! DOUBLE SUPERKICKS! Carter tags Lee in, brings Drake up, slingshot for the BLOCKBUSTER HART ATTACK!! Cover, MSK WINS!?!?
Winner: MSK via Blockbuster Hart Attack
5t. Impact Wrestling: No Surrender: X-Division Championship: TJP (c) vs Rohit Raju w/Shera
Rohit took it to TJP early, honestly a little too early. He dove out before TJP came into the ring, and they brawled for a while, and Brian Hebner kept imploring them to get into the ring. After some solid outside the ring work, Rohit did a damn good job.
Rohit had a wonderful counter wrestling strategy. TJP went for a Tornado DDT, Rohit countered it into a Northern Lights. TJP tried his 3 Amgos homage, and Rohit turned them into his own homage with a Perfect Plex for a two count.
Almost everything TJP threw, Rohit had an answer for. The story was gorgeous with how much Rohit knew TJP’s playbook and how well he could counter it. The rub was, when Shera tried to restrain TJP behind the referee’s back, TJP got away and malfunction at the junction. That gave TJP the chance to drop Rohit with a Detonation Kick and then Mamba Splash.
Winner: TJP via Mamba Splash
3t. NXT: Vengeance Day: NXT Championship: Finn Balor (c) vs Pete Dunne
Balor knees low and reels Dunne into the cobra twist! Dunne falls and Balor makes it part crossface! Dunne sees fingers and grabs at them! Dunne SNAPS the fingers!!! Balor clutches his digits but Dunne drags him up. Balor throws forearms with the good arm and he knocks Dunne down! Balor gives those Danielson Stomps back but Dunne won’t let go! Dunne pump handles but Balor elbows Dunne away! Dunne yanks the arm harder for an unofficial low blow! And he hits BITTER END!! Cover, TWO!??! Balor survives Dunne’s best shot?! Fans are thunderous for this match again as Dunne stalks Balor.
Balor sits up, Dunne DOUBLE STOMPS the hands! And then DOUBLE STOMPS again!! BUZZSAW! Powerbomb- DDT COUNTER!! Balor fires up, runs, but into an ENZIGURI! He PELES through! Dunne PENALTY KICKS from behind! Pump handle, BITTER- NO! BLOODY SUNDAY!! Cover, TWO!! Dunne survives, AND has Balor’s fingers! Balor tries to get away but Dunne rises! Balor stomps the bad foot! Dunne still SNAPS the fingers! Balor DOUBLE STOMPS Dunne on the back! Balor sits Dunne up, and takes his mouth guard away! Balor takes aim, to basement dropkick Dunne in the face! Dunne is down, Balor goes up top, COUP DE GRACE!!!! Balor shows no mercy, he gives Dunne the 1916!!!! Cover, Balor wins!!!
Winner: Balor via 1916
3t. NOAH: Return to Destination: GHC Junior Heavyweight Championship: Daisuke Harada (c) vs Seiki Yoshioka
Lightning fast start, counters, attack ducks, rope runs, absorbing a few strikes and just coming back at others. Harada leads Yoshioka into the ropes, hits a Release German Suplex, hits the Release Belly to Belly into the corner, Henkei Knee Upper and even the Turn Over Knee, but only for a 2 count. After the legs started to slow on both, the haymakers flew. A match that went from jumping over leg sweeps and counter wrestling, turned into a war of attrition.
Yoshioka rocks Harada with a Thrust Kick and lands a Pumphandle Side Driver, but only for 2. Styles Clash set up, but instead of the Clash, he jumps and drives the opponent down onto their shoulders, CRASH DRIVER! We have a new Junior champion!
Winner: Seiki via Crash Driver
1t.NXT: Vengeance Day: North American Title: Johnny Gargano (c) vs Kushida
Kushida turns him again, but they’re closer to ropes! Gargano can’t reach, Kushida pulls harder, but Gargano gets the ropebreak by a foot! The ref counts, Kushida won’t let go but Gargano drags him out of the ring! Gargano grabs for fencing but Kushida holds on. Gargano RAMS Kushida into the apron, but Kushida still holds on! Gargano RAMS Kushida into the barriers and is free! Gargano scrambles back to the elevated ramp, and decides to retreat, but Kushida runs from the stage to PENALTY KICK the arm!! Maybe NOW it’s broken! Gargano staggers up, Kushida hops on, HOVERBOARD!!! Gargano stays on his feet to put Kushida in the rope and HOTSHOT him!
Kushida flops to the ramp, fans say “Johnny Wrestling” is back as he slingshots to ONE FINAL BEAT to the RAMP!!! Gargano puts Kushida back in, then crawls after with one good arm. The ref checks on Kushida, he is still okay, and he slowly rises. Gargano aims, slingshots, ONE FINAL BEAT AGAIN!! Cover, Gargano wins!!
Winner: Gargano via One Final Beat
1t. DDT Kawasaki Strong: KO-D Openweight Championship: Tetsuya Endo (c) vs Jun Akiyama
After Akiyama won the D-Oh Grand Prix, he declared his challenge for the KO-D championship. KO-D is DDT’s top championship, effectively standing for King of DDT. Endo is the younger bad boy style of wrestler in his second reign after beating Masato Tanaka last year.
Unlike his match in NOAH where he acted more like the invulnerable veteran, much like Kobashi or Misawa would do to younger wrestlers, he sold much more in this match. Early on he out wrestled the younger champion, but once a few of the Damnation seconds got involved, it opened Akiyama up for some punishment. Part of the beauty was that even though Damnation got involved once, it was never again, and made logical sense to help out their stablemate.
I didn’t get a chance to watch the D-Oh Grand Prix, but I found it interesting that Akiyama was focusing on Endo’s neck. Chops, elbows, Knee Strikes, a Front Neck Lock, and even a Butterfly Lock. In AJPW Akiyama tended to finish matches with the Wristclutch Exploder, so I was curious where we were going. Endo focused Akiyama’s knees since that’s a big part of his offense, and even working over the neck, Endo still hit a few Torture Rack Powerbombs.
The fight raged on, we had great near falls, Endo kicked out of the Wristclutch Exploder and missed his Shooting Star Press. So I was curious where we were going, but Akiyama busts out a modified version of the Sternness Driver for the pinfall! This was just a great battle, Akiyama is definitely legit, and as of today, he officially became a full time DDT roster member.
Between Tanaka’s reign, Endo’s second reign, Akiyama winning and the CyberFight money, this does a lot to legitimize DDT beyond the comedy wrestling people associate it with.
Winner: Akiyama via Modified Sternness Driver
Thoughts:
Do I really have to decide this week? This is crazy. Jun Akiyama helps to continue the narrative of 2021 that older athletes are still more than enough of a challenge by appearing twice in the Top 10. Mutoh winning the GHC to cement his place in history helps the narrative as well, but everyone should’ve heard about that by now.
I’m torn between Johnny Gargano vs Kushida and Akiyama vs Endo. Both were great, told different stories and definitely left a mark that could last on some Top MOTY lists. Since I have to decide…I’ll just flip a coin or something. Hold please – OH LOOK, Johnny Gargano vs Kushida gets my vote!
There we go, I decided, now you should as well!
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Chris King: Defend The Intercontinental Championship At Backlash!
With WWE Backlash upon us, Chris King wants to see Penta defend the Intercontinental Championship in Tampa!
With WWE Backlash upon us, Chris King wants to see Penta defend the Intercontinental Championship in Tampa!
This year’s annual Backlash showcase is only a few days away, and while there are many big matches announced, one that definitely should be isn’t on the card. In my opinion, outside of Roman Reigns/Jacob Fatu and Seth Rollins/Bron Breakker, the Intercontinental Championship scene has been stellar over the last month.
Penta has been an excellent champion, especially after his triumphant title defense in a ladder match against JeVon Evans, Rusev, Dragon Lee, and the Hall of Famer Rey Mysterio at WrestleMania 42. Their ladder match at Mania was one of the best that WWE has produced in a while.
The momentum never stopped, as on the post-Mania episode of Monday Night Raw, ‘All Ego’ Ethan Page made his debut and was quickly inserted into the Intercontinental title scene. Page had a fantastic showing against his longtime NXT rival Evans and picked up a big win in his debut match thanks to an assist from Rusev.
All Ego immediately joined forces with ‘The Bulgarian Brute’ Rusev, who was also vying for the Intercontinental Title in his own right. On this week’s episode of Raw, Page and Rusev defeated Evans and Penta. All Ego pinned the champion, making a huge statement and putting him one step closer to getting a title shot. For the past few weeks I’ve been anxiously waiting to see if WWE was going to add this incredible fatal four-way match for the Intercontinental Championship, but it hasn’t happened yet.
As much as the WWE Universe enjoys witnessing great matches on free television, I truly believe all four superstars deserve the chance to showcase their talents on the PLE. While Penta has done a terrific job as the intercontinental champion, it’s time for a fresh face to hold the prestigious title. Page would make a great braggadocious heel that would help elevate the Intercontinental Championship to new heights!
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Our Chairshot Take – Releases, Forbidden Door, Women’s Wrestling, LFG, and The Bloodline
Welcome to Our Chairshot Take! This week, 5 of your favorite contributors answer questions about the WWE releases, the Forbidden Door alliance, women main eventing WrestleMania, wrestling competition shows, and The Bloodline!
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Welcome to a new weekly wrestling column featuring some of your favorite Chairshot contributors (and some outside of Chairshot as well) – Our Chairshot Take! Every week, we’ll have 5 contributors answer 5 of the most interesting, intriguing, and relevant questions that you want answers too. Please, feel free to tell us why we’re right or wrong, and most importantly, let us know YOUR take! And don’t forget, #AlwaysUseYourHead!
How do you think professional wrestling companies should handle releases?
Greg: It’s hard, because personally I don’t know how they could do it any better. It’s the wrestling media who jumps on the news–and they’re just doing their job. As Booker T says, don’t hate the playa, hate the game. For wrestling news, that’s the game. Plus, some talents are going to tell the media, and that’s their prerogative.
So instead, I offer you some other solutions:
Come up with a longevity threshold where a talent can keep their name. Call it 6 years. We released Apollo Crews? He can go and be Apollo Crews elsewhere. WWE still retains ownership over the name, but they provide him permission to use it. Because, yes, they owned it and developed it, but he made it real. Let him keep it alive, if he chooses to.
Guarantee main roster deals for two years. In the case of Aleister Black, it’s easily plausible that 3-6 months from now, we’ll all see a glaring hole that he could have filled. Some things take time to get right.
Finally, leverage that TNA partnership. Keeping with the same example, imagine sending Aleister Black & Zelina Vega to TNA as a shocking surprise. It helps everyone. Work out something where TNA covers a portion of the contract. Elevate the partnership, and rise that tide that raises all ships.
Andrew: The way they’re done now is fine. There’s no pomp and circumstance for normal people when they get fired, and some traditional sports stars find out they’re traded or cut because of ESPN. Wrestling ain’t special or fancy. News nowadays is about first out, not moral high ground. Deal with it.
Kyle: Unless someone asked for their release, there really isn’t a good way to handle it. Inevitably, there will always be a section of fans who are unhappy with one of their favorite stars being released. That being said, I do think it’s generally good business to grant releases to people who ask for them, and I’m definitely not a fan of adding time onto someone’s contract who no longer wants there just because they may have been injured at some point.
Karl: I’ve never been a big fan of the announced releases. I think it brings too much unwanted attention to the employees during an already difficult time. I’m not one to defend a corporate entity either, and it’s no secret that companies fire and hire employees all the time on a daily basis whether for good reasons or bad. That said, I would find it better, or perhaps more palatable that releases are done quietly with little drawn attention. Allow that privacy for the employee being released. If they want to announce that they’ve been let go, that should fall to them, not on wrestling journalists looking for a scoop.
Rob: There should be no leaks before the wrestlers themselves are told by the companies. And I’d give people a chance to ask for theirs if they want to leave before we make any roster decisions.
Has the Forbidden Door alliance – AEW, CMLL, and New Japan – worked?
Greg: For who??? That’s rhetorical, and it’s also the point. AEW’s “strategic partnerships” haven’t benefited anyone other than AEW. Look at New Japan today: struggling. Bouncing the title around to see who sticks. Konosuke Takeshita was a perfect option for IWGP Heavyweight Champion. Didn’t have it long enough to gain traction. Send people out on longer tours, let them truly impact someone else’s business. THAT is how you build a strategic partnership.
Yes, no one from TNA has held a WWE NXT Championship outside of the Hardys. And yes, someone should. Jordynne Grace and Joe Hendry signed with WWE? It was always going to happen. At least TNA got some bump out of it. Guess what? Mike Santana and Leon Slater are gonna sign at some point, too. But their presence in WWE NXT helps TNA.
AEW’s partnerships — TNA, New Japan, and CMLL — have only benefited AEW. And that’s now how this is supposed to work.
Andrew: Hahahahahaha, oh, you’re serious? NJPW has become a farm system. Their main event scene has been in tatters and I’ve seen rats leave a sinking ship slower. NJPW went from arguably the second biggest company in the world to a footnote in where a new person comes from to the general audience. Also, AAA has been more relevant in the conversation of wrestling media in the last 6 months, as compared to CMLL in the last 5 years. This Alliance is the Go Bots of pro wrestling. Discount, K-Mart, wannabe super group, that is about as significant as Damnocracy.
Kyle: It’s worked out for AEW, but I don’t think it’s really worked for CMLL and especially not for New Japan. I can’t remember the last time that NJPW has been down as bad as they are right now. The “alliance” such as it is essentially functions as a way for AEW to test the reactions that foreign talent receive and decide whether or not to poach them from CMLL or New Japan by throwing money at them.
Karl: I don’t particularly follow these companies, but I think the answer is probably somewhere between yes and no. Defining what would make the alliance successful would be the best way to break it down. What were the goals? If the goal was to get a million dream matches on the docket, I think it’s a success. It’s a great way to get wrestling matches you couldn’t always get otherwise. If the goal was some monetary gain or bringing eyes to compete with the big dog on the block, then it’s probably less of a success. So with that, I’d probably say it’s both successful and unsuccessful depending on what your expectations were/are of the idea.
Rob: For AEW, absolutely. They’ve gotten to use people from New Japan for various things. I don’t know if it’s worked great for New Japan given how many people AEW has signed that were theirs first. CMLL has gotten to use some AEW talent on their shows so I’d call that a win for them.
What will it take for there to be another women’s main event at WrestleMania?
Greg: Intent. That’s it. It’s a quick answer. “We put the most deserving match in that spot” is a bullshit cop out. You have the ability to book and showcase the product based on your plans. If you come out of every WrestleMania with the non-negotiable that women will be in the main event of one night of WrestleMania, then you will make it happen.
You build guardrails and parameters to follow. It’s not rocket science. I book my local independent and I have had women in the main event multiple times, and had a woman win our annual Rumble and use that to win our Heavyweight Championship. I made it happen because I had an intentional plan: before, during, and after. And that’s on the indies!
It can be done, you just have to want to do it.
Andrew: A compelling story and the ability to draw the crowd in. Anyone who thinks workrate matters is a fool. If Gina Carano and Ronda Rousey had their match at Mania instead of a Netflix special, THAT would’ve headlined the show. We are a long way away from any personalities being Earth shattering enough to move a main event needle. Maybe when Bianca Belair comes back from pregnancy, but that depends on her dance partner.
Kyle: It would have to be both the right combination of major stars and a strong story that the crowds are invested in. If anyone on the current roster who’s healthy could pull it off, it’s probably Rhea just because she’s massively over still.
Karl: Given the ownership group, a miracle probably. I just don’t think that TKO understands the company they own. This isn’t anything new. We see it time and time again when larger corporations purchase companies just to have more assets on their balance sheet. The quality dips because suits have hijacked what made the product great in the past. Wrestling is no different. That’s not to say that having women main event WrestleMania is the exact thing that makes wrestling great, but the idea that anyone can get to the top, or break down a barrier, especially in sport (scripted or otherwise) is part of what makes entertainment in this format so wonderful. I don’t trust the people in charge to have their finger on the pulse of what makes wrestling great, so therefore, I think even if the women’s stories demanded top billing, they wouldn’t get it anytime soon. I’ll be happy to be wrong.
Rob: The men’s side will have to clear out a bit. As long as Roman, Cody, and Punk are still there, forget it. Especially now that Oba will be there as soon as next year and Trick is coming up. Throw in Seth and Randy, and those spots are taken for the foreseeable future. To even get in the conversation though, they have to book some kind of compelling story between two or three women that rivals what the men at the top are doing. That requires treating one or two women as equals to Rhea creatively, even if they aren’t as popular, and not just booking for pops and title wins on big 4 PLEs.
Why do you think the winners of wrestling competition shows aren’t usually successful?
Greg: The most important word in the phrase “wrestling competition show” is the last one: show. It’s a show first, a true competition later. Pumping out true successful talent isn’t actually it’s job. it’s job is to payoff for whoever is paying for the show. That’s driven by results: viewers and advertising dollars. A&E doesn’t care of Shiloh Hill main events WrestleMania unless it means more financial payoff for their investment in WWE LFG. I do think we are too quick to thrust talent into a primary role after winning. Give them time.
For my eyeballs? I’d rather see true reality style coverage, think NFL Hard Knocks, or schools like Cody Rhodes’ Nightmare Factory and Booker T’s Reality of Wrestling. With the WWE machine behind it, it can work. But in the current format, it doesn’t exist to put out TV ready talent–that’s what Evolve and NXT are for.
Plus, who is making the decisions in the end? If it’s not Triple H, Bruce Prichard, Michael Hayes, and Tony Khan (for AEW, obviously), then it doesn’t matter who wins.
Andrew: Because they aren’t wrestlers. Why aren’t most American Idol winners successful? Talent does not equate to understanding the business you want to be in. We all know of music artists we wish were more well known, but they don’t understand the game well enough to play it. It’s easy to fake it for 8 weeks on camera; it’s another thing to have the determination and resolve to live it 24/7.
Kyle: I think most of the competition show winners aren’t successful because the writing team for the competition show and the creative team for the wrestling show usually aren’t the same. Add to that the fact that the winners of these shows are usually rushed to television too soon because the company wants to capitalize on the popularity of the show, and you have a recipe for a lot of winners ending up released sooner rather than later. Arguably the most successful wrestling competition show winner was John Morrison, who won Tough Enough III, and he was given a couple of years to develop in OVW and wasn’t put on TV until he was ready and creative had something for him. Most winners don’t get that opportunity to grow, and thus, they end up failing in the long run.
Karl: Much like the winners of American Idol or The Voice don’t typically amount to a hill of beans, I see wrestling competition shows in the same vein. Sure, you’ll have the occasional standout, but it’s just really hard to be consistently great at anything without working at it. On a competition show, you’re all in, all the time, because otherwise you’re going home. But what happens when you win that show? Does the drive stay high? It can be difficult I think, because once you’re in the door, you’re no longer looked at as someone special. You’re now just like everyone else. Or, the flip side, you’re put under the bright lights too quickly and it doesn’t work. Not to mention, there are people in the locker room who have been working their whole life for this thing you achieved in a matter of months. It’s going to naturally devolve into jealousy by your peers. I think competition show winners fall prey to the pressure of sustained success.
Rob: Winning the competition isn’t the same as succeeding in the real world. The competition is a closed space and its own entity. Just like how Star Search and American Idol winners are often not the most successful people from their group.
Has the Bloodline storyline jumped the shark?
Greg: In a word: no.
In a few words: absolutely hell the freak not.
In more words: do you know what the phrase “jump the shark” actually means? Look it up. It comes from the old TV show Happy Days, where Arthur Fonzarelli, aka “The Fonze” and “Fonzie,” actually jumps over a shark on his motorcycle. After that, the show was never really the same again. Jumping the shark was the moment. That’s what it means.
Now circle back to The Bloodline. What’s their “jump the shark” moment? There isn’t one! Are we producing “cinema” like the height of the Sami Zayn story? No, not at all. But we haven’t jumped the shark. Instead, we’ve evolved. Roman Reigns’ ascension back to the world title saw Jimmy & Jey Uso get slowly infused back into the fold, but what did Roman do after? He said that they now stand together. They are more equal now. There’s no wiseman, there’s no outlier Sami Zayn character, no solo as the right hand man.
It hasn’t jumped the shark, it’s evolved. And I want to see where it goes next.
Andrew: Bloodline should’ve been dead when Jacob and Solo split. I don’t think there’s been anything egregious enough to imply it “Jumped the Shark,” as in, a desperation ploy to keep it going. But it’s just outlasted it’s welcome. While Roman will always be my OTC, and I’ve been ride or die with the Werewolf and G.O.D., we can stop dragging it on into perpetuity. Let people go their own ways without a reference every other month, and no more Honorary Usos. That LA Knight shirt was ALMOST a shark jump…but the angle was so insignificant in the grand scheme of things, it didn’t matter enough to even register anywhere near the Island of Relevancy.
Kyle: I watched Jacob Fatu put the Tribal Chief in a Tongan Death Grip. You’re not gonna catch me in these streets disrespecting any of the Polynesian wrestlers or their storylines. I don’t want NONE of that smoke.
Karl: The Bloodline story is probably running out of juice, for a lot of the same reasons big time storylines run out of juice. There’s not much left to squeeze. There are only so many ways you can take a story. You can try to keep it fresh, and on a smaller scale, you can run into the old nWo problem of too many cooks in the kitchen. The Bloodline ran with a lot of new members, and new introductions. It helped build some of them to important status, but at a certain point, new pathways need to be created for all involved. You can always revisit what made the stories great. I’ve always thought the way the Shield was handled post-break up has been well done. Callbacks here and there to what made them great, to what broke them apart, etc., were always fun ways to remind the fans, but continuing with the angle will always fall flat, especially with how short the attention span of most people can be.
Rob: It all depends on whether or not they have some good enemies this year. If they’re just running back all of the bits they did last time then yes. But if they can find some new things to do, then they’ll be fine.
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Kyle – @OutsidersEdgeCS
Karl — @OutsidersEdgeCS
Rob – @rbonne1
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