Opinion
WWE Week in Review November 12-18, 2018
We are in the final week before WWE Survivor Series and TakeOver: War Games II and everyone’s looking to gain momentum going into Survivor Series Weekend.
On RAW, Alexa Bliss decides on the RAW Women’s team, Seth Rollins tries to focus on his upcoming match with Shinsuke Nakamura, but a shocking act by Dean Ambrose throws all that out the window. The RAW Elimination Team tries to find their captains. Baron Corbin finds himself in hot water with Stephanie McMahon, who finds herself making a deal with Braun Strowman to save Survivor Series, and Ronda Rousey learns a painful lesson about arrogance when RAW has some unexpected company.
On SmackDown, the fallout of the invasion of RAW throws Survivor Series into chaos. Miz finds himself in a position to make some changes to the SmackDown Men’s team. Becky Lynch swallows her pride and turns to a former friend when the consequences of her actions leave her on the sidelines. A confrontation between Styles and Heyman over Survivor Series has unexpected consequences that stun the WWE Universe.
On NXT UK, Triple H and Johnny Saint make a historic announcement that has a huge impact on the fledgling Women’s Division. While the gentlemen all jockey for position and respect.
On 205 Live, Lio Rush’s undefeated streak is on the line against a hungry and desperate Cedric Alexander. Buddy Murphy and Mustafa Ali prepare for their confrontation at Survivor Series, and Drew Gulak and Jack Gallagher face former friend Brian Kendrick and former victim, Akira Tozawa.
On NXT, Mia Yim face the EST, Bianca Belair. Lacey Evans tries to teach class to a rookie. Kyle O’Reilly faces Hanson to decide which team will have the advantage in War Games.
So, how did WWE do with all these balls in the air? Let’s find out!
RAW
WWE Universal Championship: Paul Heyman and Brock Lesnar were in the house to hype the big rematch from last year: Brock Lesnar vs AJ Styles Part II. Heyman did his usual schtick of hyping Lesnar and vowing victory for his client.
This broken record was interrupted by Jinder Mahal, who had nearly faced Lesnar last year at Survivor Series. Mahal wanted to bring his enlightening mediation to the Beast. Lesnar seemed to play along before treating Mahal to a thunderous F-5. Not satisfied, Lesnar also took out the Singhs before leaving.
Baron Corbin vs Braun Strowman: Baron Corbin has been a marked man since his actions at Crown Jewel cost Strowman the Universal Championship. Strowman was denied his prize last week when Corbin high-tailed it out of the arena. Refusing to be denied his prey this week, Strowman interrupted the battle royal to decide who would captain the RAW Tag Team-Team, throwing everyone out, and declaring that he was not leaving the ring until Corbin came out here.
Instead of Corbin, Strowman got Stephanie McMahon, who was certainly wary of Strowman, but not really scared. Stephanie tried to talk Strowman down, assuring him that she understood that he was pissed over Corbin’s actions, but that she needed him to focus on Survivor Series and leading Team RAW to victory.
Strowman interrupted her, which is never a smart move and tells her that he doesn’t give a damn about brand supremacy or what Shane did. Strowman knows Stephanie’s trying to manipulate him. Stephanie offers a compromise: If Strowman leads Team RAW to victory on Sunday, she’ll give him whatever he wants.
It was here that Baron Corbin learned the ultimate hard lesson about being a toadie for the McMahons: They will never hesitate to throw you to the wolves. Strowman’s demands were simple: He wants Brock Lesnar for the Universal Title. He wanted Baron Corbin, and he wants Corbin to sign a waiver so he wouldn’t be held responsible for what happens. Stephanie agrees to his demands on one condition: He had to wait until after Survivor Series.
Strowman didn’t seem to realize that he was actually in weaker position and threatened to go to WWE Headquarters and destroy the place if Stephanie tried to renege on the deal. Before Stephanie could answer, she was interrupted by Ronda Rousey.
Stephanie wasn’t happy about this, but seemed willing to play nice, but Rousey wasn’t. It seems that Ronda’s head has gotten a little too big for her hat because she tells Stephanie that she doesn’t need a pep talk to get motivated to face Becky Lynch. She then moves on Stephanie, who hadn’t done anything.
Baron Corbin, who seemed to been emboldened by the fact that Strowman couldn’t touch him, came out to calm things down. He made the huge mistake of not only talking down to Rousey but touching her, which lead to him getting thrown by the irate Rousey. Barely recovering from that embarrassment, Corbin was confronted by Strowman, which lead to Stephanie having to get between them. Strowman threatened to neuter Corbin after Survivor Series, before leaving.
RAW Women’s Division: Alexa Bliss told the Women’s Division last week that she was looking for people with killer instinct for the RAW Women’s Team.
In that spirit, Ember Moon took on Tamina Snuka in one on one action. Tamina was accompanied by her new partner, Nia Jax. Ember had a much better go of it this week, but the presence of Nia Jax kept her from maintain any momentum. The advantage of Nia paid dividends for Tamina who was able to pull out the win with a Superfly Splash and Alexa, who had been watching backstage, seemed pleased with this.
For weeks, Ronda Rousey and Becky Lynch have been having an increasingly nasty war of words on social media. On Monday, Rousey addressed Becky Lynch in a final promo before Survivor Series. Rousey arrogantly dismissed Lynch and her threats as ridiculous, showing Lynch minimal respect. She then nearly broke her own arm patting herself on the back talking about how hard she’d worked to get where she was, not seeming to understand that Lynch had worked that hard and harder to get where she was and was a lot hungrier than Rousey.
Last week, the Riott Squad showed how far they’d go to get one over on their opponents when Ruby Riott ruthlessly broke a pair of sunglasses that supposedly belonged to Nattie’s late father, Jim Neidhart.
This week, Ruby Riott addressed the situation, showing some remorse, before revealing that she’d loved every minute of destroying those sunglasses. Her only regret was that she’d only destroyed the sunglasses. Nattie had had everything handed to her because of her name, but the Riott Squad had had to scratch and fight for everything. Riott said that she’d wanted to make Nattie cried and was happy that she’d succeeded.
At this point, Nattie’s music hit, and the Riott Squad turned to deal with the threat, but Nattie came out of the crowd and attacked Riott from behind. Logan and Morgan came to Riott, but Nattie tried to hold her own, but was overwhelmed by the vicious Squad before suffering the indignity of being hit with a Hart Attack by Logan and Riott.
Alexa Bliss announced her picks for the RAW Women’s Team, and her picks were no surprise for the most part: Mickie James, Nia Jax, Tamina. The one big surprise was Nattie, who Bliss had sent home to calm down. As for the final spot, Bliss announced that there would be a match between Sasha Banks and Bayley to determine who would get the final spot.
The match between Banks and Bayley was typically amazing. Both women wanted that spot and it show, especially when Bayley hit a Bayley-to-Belly on Sasha on the apron. However, as usual, we didn’t get a winner for Banks vs Bayley because the rest of Team RAW attacked the two women, ending the match in a No Contest. It was then that Bliss revealed that the match had been a game. The final member of Team RAW is Ruby Riott.
Before Banks or Bayley could fully process that, we were alerted to a commotion backstage. Going to the Women’s locker area, it was discovered that Becky Lynch had attacked Ronda Rousey and had Rousey in the Dis-Arm-Her while Rousey screamed and thrashed around. While Team RAW tried to process that, Lynch’s music hit. The women in the ring dared her to come in the ring, Team SmackDown jumped the RAW women and the fight was on!
What happened next wouldn’t be fully revealed until the next day, but somewhere in the brawl, Nia Jax punched Lynch square in the face, not a working punch, or even a potato, but a full powered punch in the face. Lynch’s nose started spurting blood, but it didn’t stop her from fighting, taking out Ronda Rousey when Rousey tried to come to Team RAW’s rescue. RAW ended with a bloodied Lynch in the audience, leaving Team RAW and Ronda Rousey in the ring.
Backstage, an enraged Stephanie McMahon berated Corbin for what happened. Corbin tried to make excuses, but Stephanie’s patience had run out. She orders Corbin to do something about what had just happened and warned that RAW could NOT lose on Sunday.
Seth Rollins vs Dean Ambrose: For weeks, Seth Rollins, and the WWE Universe have been trying to get answers for Dean Ambrose’s shocking turn, and Ambrose had refused to answer. This week, however, Seth had bigger things on his mind, namely, his match against Shinsuke Nakamura at Survivor Series.
Rollins gave an interview to Corey Graves, who asked him about his preparations for Survivor Series. Rollins admitted that he usually puts a lot of preparation and thought into his matches, especially a big one like the one with Nakamura, but right now, he’s not thinking about Survivor Series and didn’t really give a damn about Nakamura.
Graves, who had seen what Nakamura is really capable of, tried to warn Seth that Nakamura wasn’t someone to take lightly, but Rollins wasn’t listening. He was more focused on the situation with Dean Ambrose. Despite his words last week, Rollins said that he still wanted answers from Ambrose about why Ambrose turned on Rollins and Roman Reigns, despite the fact that Ambrose hadn’t turned on Reigns, just Rollins. Rollins then said that Dean wasn’t a stupid man, he just wasn’t man enough to come to Rollins to tell him what the problem was.
At that point the TitanTron came to life, revealing that Dean was outside, sitting on the hood of a car, next to a roaring trash fire. Ambrose said that he was man enough to come in out of the cold and beat the hell out of Rollins, but he wasn’t going to do it. Ambrose said he didn’t owe anyone an explanation for what happened. He blamed Seth’s treatment of him for part of what happened and said that he’d changed and Seth and Roman didn’t notice. He then said that maybe part of him hoped his brothers would forgive him one day, but he said that the Shield, Seth, and Roman made him weak because he’d believed in that brotherhood and those days were over, he was going to burn it down.
What Dean was burning down became obvious when he pulled out his old Shield vest and through it into the fire. Seth was devastated, and went in search of his former friend, presumably to have it out once and for all.
Dolph Ziggler vs Finn Balor: Last week, Drew McIntyre shocked the wrestling world by soundly defeating Kurt Angle, with Angle’s own move, the Ankle Lock. This week, McIntyre didn’t hesitate to crow about his victory over the Hall of Famer and voicing his disgust over Angle crying in the ring. He also claimed that he’d sacrificed more than anyone in WWE and that he’s done with nostalgia acts.
Balor come out to save us from this nonsense, calling McIntyre a liar and saying that his actions against Angle last week crossed a line. McIntyre, not realizing, or caring that Balor isn’t someone to take lightly, made the massive mistake of talking down to the Irishman, saying dignity wasn’t a right, and insulting the Balor Club.
Tired of the blowhard Scot, Balor challenged McIntyre to a match, but McIntyre, claiming that Balor was beneath him, offered up Dolph Ziggler instead, saying that if Balor could beat Ziggler, he’d get McIntyre but before the match could start, McIntyre got in a cheap shot on Balor.
The match between Balor and Ziggler was really good. Thanks to McIntyre’s cheap shot, Ziggler dominated the first part of the match, but Balor got his wits back pretty quickly and was able to battle back. Ziggler COULD have put Balor away if he’d been more focused on wrestling than showing off. It looked like Balor was done for after Ziggler was able to dodge a Coup de Grace, but Balor rolled up Ziggler for the pin. Infuriating McIntyre, who’d looked more and more worried during the match.
To add more fuel to McIntyre’s woes, when Balor go backstage, Stephanie made him the final member of Team RAW, over the protests of Corbin, Ziggler, and McIntyre.
Tag Team Battle Royal: Since Strowman had rudely interrupted the first attempt, the Tag Team Battle Royal to determine who would be the captains of the RAW Tag Team Team at Survivor Series. It came down to Roode/Gable and the Ascension. Roode and Gable would pull out the win, but the RAW Tag Team would include pretty much the whole Tag division, not including AoP.
Bobby Lashley vs Elias: Lio Rush did his usual hype job for Lashley for his magnificent body, which seems to be about all Lashley has going for him sometimes. This body worship was interrupted by Elias.
Elias announced that he was reporting Lashley for kidnapping a child, asking Rush how old he was. He also found Rush’s gushing over Lashley’s body while Lashley was bent over, a little disturbing, asking the audience if they wanted to walk with Elias or bend over for Lashley and that Lashley was in danger of putting people to sleep.
Unamused, Rush called Elias a clown and challenged him to say all that to Lashley’s face. Amused, Elias told Rush to calm down, he was just trying to help the whole world understand that Lashley sucked.
The actual match was pretty good. Elias was able to keep up with Lashley, but Lashley’s hype man earned his pay yet again, when Rush was able to keep Elias from beating the ref’s count, earning Lashley a win by countout and the final spot on Team RAW.
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Chris King: Defend The Intercontinental Championship At Backlash!
With WWE Backlash upon us, Chris King wants to see Penta defend the Intercontinental Championship in Tampa!
With WWE Backlash upon us, Chris King wants to see Penta defend the Intercontinental Championship in Tampa!
This year’s annual Backlash showcase is only a few days away, and while there are many big matches announced, one that definitely should be isn’t on the card. In my opinion, outside of Roman Reigns/Jacob Fatu and Seth Rollins/Bron Breakker, the Intercontinental Championship scene has been stellar over the last month.
Penta has been an excellent champion, especially after his triumphant title defense in a ladder match against JeVon Evans, Rusev, Dragon Lee, and the Hall of Famer Rey Mysterio at WrestleMania 42. Their ladder match at Mania was one of the best that WWE has produced in a while.
The momentum never stopped, as on the post-Mania episode of Monday Night Raw, ‘All Ego’ Ethan Page made his debut and was quickly inserted into the Intercontinental title scene. Page had a fantastic showing against his longtime NXT rival Evans and picked up a big win in his debut match thanks to an assist from Rusev.
All Ego immediately joined forces with ‘The Bulgarian Brute’ Rusev, who was also vying for the Intercontinental Title in his own right. On this week’s episode of Raw, Page and Rusev defeated Evans and Penta. All Ego pinned the champion, making a huge statement and putting him one step closer to getting a title shot. For the past few weeks I’ve been anxiously waiting to see if WWE was going to add this incredible fatal four-way match for the Intercontinental Championship, but it hasn’t happened yet.
As much as the WWE Universe enjoys witnessing great matches on free television, I truly believe all four superstars deserve the chance to showcase their talents on the PLE. While Penta has done a terrific job as the intercontinental champion, it’s time for a fresh face to hold the prestigious title. Page would make a great braggadocious heel that would help elevate the Intercontinental Championship to new heights!
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Our Chairshot Take – Releases, Forbidden Door, Women’s Wrestling, LFG, and The Bloodline
Welcome to Our Chairshot Take! This week, 5 of your favorite contributors answer questions about the WWE releases, the Forbidden Door alliance, women main eventing WrestleMania, wrestling competition shows, and The Bloodline!
Welcome to Our Chairshot Take! This week, 5 of your favorite contributors answer questions about the WWE releases, the Forbidden Door alliance, women main eventing WrestleMania, wrestling competition shows, and The Bloodline!
Welcome to a new weekly wrestling column featuring some of your favorite Chairshot contributors (and some outside of Chairshot as well) – Our Chairshot Take! Every week, we’ll have 5 contributors answer 5 of the most interesting, intriguing, and relevant questions that you want answers too. Please, feel free to tell us why we’re right or wrong, and most importantly, let us know YOUR take! And don’t forget, #AlwaysUseYourHead!
How do you think professional wrestling companies should handle releases?
Greg: It’s hard, because personally I don’t know how they could do it any better. It’s the wrestling media who jumps on the news–and they’re just doing their job. As Booker T says, don’t hate the playa, hate the game. For wrestling news, that’s the game. Plus, some talents are going to tell the media, and that’s their prerogative.
So instead, I offer you some other solutions:
Come up with a longevity threshold where a talent can keep their name. Call it 6 years. We released Apollo Crews? He can go and be Apollo Crews elsewhere. WWE still retains ownership over the name, but they provide him permission to use it. Because, yes, they owned it and developed it, but he made it real. Let him keep it alive, if he chooses to.
Guarantee main roster deals for two years. In the case of Aleister Black, it’s easily plausible that 3-6 months from now, we’ll all see a glaring hole that he could have filled. Some things take time to get right.
Finally, leverage that TNA partnership. Keeping with the same example, imagine sending Aleister Black & Zelina Vega to TNA as a shocking surprise. It helps everyone. Work out something where TNA covers a portion of the contract. Elevate the partnership, and rise that tide that raises all ships.
Andrew: The way they’re done now is fine. There’s no pomp and circumstance for normal people when they get fired, and some traditional sports stars find out they’re traded or cut because of ESPN. Wrestling ain’t special or fancy. News nowadays is about first out, not moral high ground. Deal with it.
Kyle: Unless someone asked for their release, there really isn’t a good way to handle it. Inevitably, there will always be a section of fans who are unhappy with one of their favorite stars being released. That being said, I do think it’s generally good business to grant releases to people who ask for them, and I’m definitely not a fan of adding time onto someone’s contract who no longer wants there just because they may have been injured at some point.
Karl: I’ve never been a big fan of the announced releases. I think it brings too much unwanted attention to the employees during an already difficult time. I’m not one to defend a corporate entity either, and it’s no secret that companies fire and hire employees all the time on a daily basis whether for good reasons or bad. That said, I would find it better, or perhaps more palatable that releases are done quietly with little drawn attention. Allow that privacy for the employee being released. If they want to announce that they’ve been let go, that should fall to them, not on wrestling journalists looking for a scoop.
Rob: There should be no leaks before the wrestlers themselves are told by the companies. And I’d give people a chance to ask for theirs if they want to leave before we make any roster decisions.
Has the Forbidden Door alliance – AEW, CMLL, and New Japan – worked?
Greg: For who??? That’s rhetorical, and it’s also the point. AEW’s “strategic partnerships” haven’t benefited anyone other than AEW. Look at New Japan today: struggling. Bouncing the title around to see who sticks. Konosuke Takeshita was a perfect option for IWGP Heavyweight Champion. Didn’t have it long enough to gain traction. Send people out on longer tours, let them truly impact someone else’s business. THAT is how you build a strategic partnership.
Yes, no one from TNA has held a WWE NXT Championship outside of the Hardys. And yes, someone should. Jordynne Grace and Joe Hendry signed with WWE? It was always going to happen. At least TNA got some bump out of it. Guess what? Mike Santana and Leon Slater are gonna sign at some point, too. But their presence in WWE NXT helps TNA.
AEW’s partnerships — TNA, New Japan, and CMLL — have only benefited AEW. And that’s now how this is supposed to work.
Andrew: Hahahahahaha, oh, you’re serious? NJPW has become a farm system. Their main event scene has been in tatters and I’ve seen rats leave a sinking ship slower. NJPW went from arguably the second biggest company in the world to a footnote in where a new person comes from to the general audience. Also, AAA has been more relevant in the conversation of wrestling media in the last 6 months, as compared to CMLL in the last 5 years. This Alliance is the Go Bots of pro wrestling. Discount, K-Mart, wannabe super group, that is about as significant as Damnocracy.
Kyle: It’s worked out for AEW, but I don’t think it’s really worked for CMLL and especially not for New Japan. I can’t remember the last time that NJPW has been down as bad as they are right now. The “alliance” such as it is essentially functions as a way for AEW to test the reactions that foreign talent receive and decide whether or not to poach them from CMLL or New Japan by throwing money at them.
Karl: I don’t particularly follow these companies, but I think the answer is probably somewhere between yes and no. Defining what would make the alliance successful would be the best way to break it down. What were the goals? If the goal was to get a million dream matches on the docket, I think it’s a success. It’s a great way to get wrestling matches you couldn’t always get otherwise. If the goal was some monetary gain or bringing eyes to compete with the big dog on the block, then it’s probably less of a success. So with that, I’d probably say it’s both successful and unsuccessful depending on what your expectations were/are of the idea.
Rob: For AEW, absolutely. They’ve gotten to use people from New Japan for various things. I don’t know if it’s worked great for New Japan given how many people AEW has signed that were theirs first. CMLL has gotten to use some AEW talent on their shows so I’d call that a win for them.
What will it take for there to be another women’s main event at WrestleMania?
Greg: Intent. That’s it. It’s a quick answer. “We put the most deserving match in that spot” is a bullshit cop out. You have the ability to book and showcase the product based on your plans. If you come out of every WrestleMania with the non-negotiable that women will be in the main event of one night of WrestleMania, then you will make it happen.
You build guardrails and parameters to follow. It’s not rocket science. I book my local independent and I have had women in the main event multiple times, and had a woman win our annual Rumble and use that to win our Heavyweight Championship. I made it happen because I had an intentional plan: before, during, and after. And that’s on the indies!
It can be done, you just have to want to do it.
Andrew: A compelling story and the ability to draw the crowd in. Anyone who thinks workrate matters is a fool. If Gina Carano and Ronda Rousey had their match at Mania instead of a Netflix special, THAT would’ve headlined the show. We are a long way away from any personalities being Earth shattering enough to move a main event needle. Maybe when Bianca Belair comes back from pregnancy, but that depends on her dance partner.
Kyle: It would have to be both the right combination of major stars and a strong story that the crowds are invested in. If anyone on the current roster who’s healthy could pull it off, it’s probably Rhea just because she’s massively over still.
Karl: Given the ownership group, a miracle probably. I just don’t think that TKO understands the company they own. This isn’t anything new. We see it time and time again when larger corporations purchase companies just to have more assets on their balance sheet. The quality dips because suits have hijacked what made the product great in the past. Wrestling is no different. That’s not to say that having women main event WrestleMania is the exact thing that makes wrestling great, but the idea that anyone can get to the top, or break down a barrier, especially in sport (scripted or otherwise) is part of what makes entertainment in this format so wonderful. I don’t trust the people in charge to have their finger on the pulse of what makes wrestling great, so therefore, I think even if the women’s stories demanded top billing, they wouldn’t get it anytime soon. I’ll be happy to be wrong.
Rob: The men’s side will have to clear out a bit. As long as Roman, Cody, and Punk are still there, forget it. Especially now that Oba will be there as soon as next year and Trick is coming up. Throw in Seth and Randy, and those spots are taken for the foreseeable future. To even get in the conversation though, they have to book some kind of compelling story between two or three women that rivals what the men at the top are doing. That requires treating one or two women as equals to Rhea creatively, even if they aren’t as popular, and not just booking for pops and title wins on big 4 PLEs.
Why do you think the winners of wrestling competition shows aren’t usually successful?
Greg: The most important word in the phrase “wrestling competition show” is the last one: show. It’s a show first, a true competition later. Pumping out true successful talent isn’t actually it’s job. it’s job is to payoff for whoever is paying for the show. That’s driven by results: viewers and advertising dollars. A&E doesn’t care of Shiloh Hill main events WrestleMania unless it means more financial payoff for their investment in WWE LFG. I do think we are too quick to thrust talent into a primary role after winning. Give them time.
For my eyeballs? I’d rather see true reality style coverage, think NFL Hard Knocks, or schools like Cody Rhodes’ Nightmare Factory and Booker T’s Reality of Wrestling. With the WWE machine behind it, it can work. But in the current format, it doesn’t exist to put out TV ready talent–that’s what Evolve and NXT are for.
Plus, who is making the decisions in the end? If it’s not Triple H, Bruce Prichard, Michael Hayes, and Tony Khan (for AEW, obviously), then it doesn’t matter who wins.
Andrew: Because they aren’t wrestlers. Why aren’t most American Idol winners successful? Talent does not equate to understanding the business you want to be in. We all know of music artists we wish were more well known, but they don’t understand the game well enough to play it. It’s easy to fake it for 8 weeks on camera; it’s another thing to have the determination and resolve to live it 24/7.
Kyle: I think most of the competition show winners aren’t successful because the writing team for the competition show and the creative team for the wrestling show usually aren’t the same. Add to that the fact that the winners of these shows are usually rushed to television too soon because the company wants to capitalize on the popularity of the show, and you have a recipe for a lot of winners ending up released sooner rather than later. Arguably the most successful wrestling competition show winner was John Morrison, who won Tough Enough III, and he was given a couple of years to develop in OVW and wasn’t put on TV until he was ready and creative had something for him. Most winners don’t get that opportunity to grow, and thus, they end up failing in the long run.
Karl: Much like the winners of American Idol or The Voice don’t typically amount to a hill of beans, I see wrestling competition shows in the same vein. Sure, you’ll have the occasional standout, but it’s just really hard to be consistently great at anything without working at it. On a competition show, you’re all in, all the time, because otherwise you’re going home. But what happens when you win that show? Does the drive stay high? It can be difficult I think, because once you’re in the door, you’re no longer looked at as someone special. You’re now just like everyone else. Or, the flip side, you’re put under the bright lights too quickly and it doesn’t work. Not to mention, there are people in the locker room who have been working their whole life for this thing you achieved in a matter of months. It’s going to naturally devolve into jealousy by your peers. I think competition show winners fall prey to the pressure of sustained success.
Rob: Winning the competition isn’t the same as succeeding in the real world. The competition is a closed space and its own entity. Just like how Star Search and American Idol winners are often not the most successful people from their group.
Has the Bloodline storyline jumped the shark?
Greg: In a word: no.
In a few words: absolutely hell the freak not.
In more words: do you know what the phrase “jump the shark” actually means? Look it up. It comes from the old TV show Happy Days, where Arthur Fonzarelli, aka “The Fonze” and “Fonzie,” actually jumps over a shark on his motorcycle. After that, the show was never really the same again. Jumping the shark was the moment. That’s what it means.
Now circle back to The Bloodline. What’s their “jump the shark” moment? There isn’t one! Are we producing “cinema” like the height of the Sami Zayn story? No, not at all. But we haven’t jumped the shark. Instead, we’ve evolved. Roman Reigns’ ascension back to the world title saw Jimmy & Jey Uso get slowly infused back into the fold, but what did Roman do after? He said that they now stand together. They are more equal now. There’s no wiseman, there’s no outlier Sami Zayn character, no solo as the right hand man.
It hasn’t jumped the shark, it’s evolved. And I want to see where it goes next.
Andrew: Bloodline should’ve been dead when Jacob and Solo split. I don’t think there’s been anything egregious enough to imply it “Jumped the Shark,” as in, a desperation ploy to keep it going. But it’s just outlasted it’s welcome. While Roman will always be my OTC, and I’ve been ride or die with the Werewolf and G.O.D., we can stop dragging it on into perpetuity. Let people go their own ways without a reference every other month, and no more Honorary Usos. That LA Knight shirt was ALMOST a shark jump…but the angle was so insignificant in the grand scheme of things, it didn’t matter enough to even register anywhere near the Island of Relevancy.
Kyle: I watched Jacob Fatu put the Tribal Chief in a Tongan Death Grip. You’re not gonna catch me in these streets disrespecting any of the Polynesian wrestlers or their storylines. I don’t want NONE of that smoke.
Karl: The Bloodline story is probably running out of juice, for a lot of the same reasons big time storylines run out of juice. There’s not much left to squeeze. There are only so many ways you can take a story. You can try to keep it fresh, and on a smaller scale, you can run into the old nWo problem of too many cooks in the kitchen. The Bloodline ran with a lot of new members, and new introductions. It helped build some of them to important status, but at a certain point, new pathways need to be created for all involved. You can always revisit what made the stories great. I’ve always thought the way the Shield was handled post-break up has been well done. Callbacks here and there to what made them great, to what broke them apart, etc., were always fun ways to remind the fans, but continuing with the angle will always fall flat, especially with how short the attention span of most people can be.
Rob: It all depends on whether or not they have some good enemies this year. If they’re just running back all of the bits they did last time then yes. But if they can find some new things to do, then they’ll be fine.
Greg – @GregDeMarco44
Andrew – @IWCWarChief
Kyle – @OutsidersEdgeCS
Karl — @OutsidersEdgeCS
Rob – @rbonne1
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