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WrestleMania is here, and one of the hottest topics is….HEALTHCARE?

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WrestleMania is here, and one of the hottest topics is….HEALTHCARE? Rob chimes in.

Yeah I know, that’s exactly what you come here for. But in light of John Oliver’s piece on how WWE treats it’s wrestlers I figured it would be a good idea to look at the subject a little more in depth to get a better idea of what it would look like if the WWE actually gave it’s wrestlers health insurance.  Healthcare is a complicated subject, something you can’t properly discuss in a 20 minute news entertainment feature where a lot of your quotes are more than 10 years old and you’re digging up CM Punk because of who he appeals to.  Healthcare for a unique, specific group like professional wrestlers just isn’t that simple.

Before you even get to the regular factors that go into determining premiums for the rest of us, you have to account for the fact that they are in an extremely high risk pool given the nature of their work and the amount of time that they travel, and that the pool itself that isn’t very big. If you grouped all the full time pro wrestlers together accross every company you’d have a pretty small pool compared to a lot of other professions and other demographics.  You’re literally talking about the special case of all special cases; they’re not as danger prone as NFL players at work but far more than you or I (unless we start having keyboard fights where I work).

As it stands right now, WWE (and other companies like ROH, Impact, and soon to be AEW) pay for surgery and rehab for anyone who gets injured on the job.  They don’t provide health insurance.  Now on the surface that looks bad, but from a pure money perspective it all depends on your personal situation.  Given how much WWE wrestlers get paid a lot of them, maybe even a majority, would make out better paying out of pocket when the need arises than to they would by paying what would be really high premiums every month and then high deductibles when they did need to use it.  Barring some serious injury or illness that requires hospitalization, surgery, or ongoing medical treatment then someone making a million dollars a year would definitely be better off financially just paying out of pocket.  A $300 dental bill, which you can get hit with even if you have insurance, is something that someone like John Cena or even Tyler Breeze can pay on their own whereas instead of paying a high premium for the month and still having to pay the $300 anyway.  Again, it is literally a case by case situation but don’t think for one minute that they’re not all sitting down and figuring this out be it with an accountant or on their own and then choosing accordingly.

But cost isn’t only an issue to the wrestlers, it will be an issue to the company they work for as well.  Who cares about that though, right?  As long as evil Vince does what’s right everything’s cool, right?  Umm…….not exactly.  Don’t think for one minute that Vince (or the Khan family in AEW or Sinclair Broadcasting that own Ring of Honor for that matter) are going to take on that big a liability without passing the cost on to us.  And we’re not talking about twenty five cents per purchase passed along to us like the guy who used to run Papa John’s Pizza was complaining about.  Health insurance for wrestlers isn’t the same as health insurance for pizza delivery people.  But if you’re ok with that then there are some other potential unintended consequences, mainly towards who may get to work forward.  Please understand that an almost 40 year old Daniel Bryan with his 15-plus concussions (that we know of), neck and shoulder problems, and whatever other kind of wear and tear his body has endured would cost so much to get health insurance for that neither Vince nor the Khan family or Sinclair may think it’s worth it.

That goes for all the other guys and gals who have been working for over a decade and have all kinds things going on that may not hinder them from working but would raise red flags on a physical were they to take one.  And women in general are already subjected to higher healthcare costs for all sorts of reasons, some really ridiculous, so I imagine a woman wrestler of any age will be even more insane to insure.  You force WWE or AEW or ROH into the world of health and liability insurance (which is proving to be more and more difficult for even the NFL now), and you are fundamentally altering who gets to work at that level as anyone deemed too expensive could find themselves locked out unless everyone adopts the ROH model of letting people work elsewhere but also paying them that way, too.

And we haven’t even gotten to the real slippery slope: healthcare for former wrestlers.  Health insurance for active workers may be doable, but providing the same for former wrestlers is a financial time bomb.  You think it costs a lot for active guys/gals, wait until you try to insure 55 year olds who are now going through the effects of taking all those crazy bumps in their 20s and 30s and 40s.  There is a pretty big graveyard of companies whose cause of death was healthcare for retirees.  WWE is a pure retail company; they are not going to get a government bailout if things get really bad and they’re not hooked to an endless supply of cash like a publicly financed arena that they didn’t have to pay a dime for and get a piece of the action from all year like professional sports teams.

They’re not owned by an actual TV Network like Ring of Honor is by Sinclair Broadcasting or an NFL owning family like the Khans.  They are really out there on their own so every dollar they bring in counts and they can’t afford to go down certain roads no matter how many times you hear the words ‘billion dollar TV deal’.  That’s not a license to print money and it’s a drop in the bucket compared to what the NFL is making off of TV.  WWE just got two TV deals that total $2 billion but the NFL’s TV contracts pay $3 billion per year.   They also bring in over $10 billion per year in revenue while WWE celebrates hitting $1 billion.  Yes it’s all big numbers but everything is relative and one goes a whole lot further than the other.

So again, this isn’t as easy to do as it sounds.  The best bet would probably be for the wrestlers to get SAG to allow them to join, and get health insurance that way.  Then it would be available to all of them and not just the ones who work in WWE.  I mean that is what we want, right?  For all of them to be able to get better access to healthcare through health insurance, right?  Because the men and women working indies have just as much need to see doctors as the ones working in WWE, except they’re not getting paid as much so paying out of pocket is just like me or you having to do it.  There were a few indie guys doing GoFundMe’s for surgery last year already.  We are concerned about them too, right?  Right?  Or do we just want to take shots at Evil Vince because it’s so easy to do?  If John Oliver had done that same report for either Ring of Honor, who can afford to do it more than WWE can, you’d be just as concerned for Jay Lethal and Dalton Castle (who was out there last year with damn near half his body bandaged up) as you are for Bryan and Roman Reigns……right?  Right?

Not a simple problem and not a simple solution at all.  So be careful what you wish for, it may not go like you think.


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This week’s installment of Hockey Talk takes a slightly different approach. Dave was all too happy to welcome back the Doctor of Puckanomics,  the one and only Kyle Moores, for a discussion about where things stand in the NHL with just about 2 weeks remaining in the regular season. The first half of the show is all about the playoff races in the NHL, which teams have things on lock, and which ones are going to be clawing and scratching all the way to the very end. What almost certain playoff series are the guys most excited about? (Hint: Patrick O’Dowd will be very happy about it…or maybe a bit nervous). The second half of the show, however, provided Dave and Kyle with a chance to offer up their final thoughts on WrestleMania 38. Considered by many to be one of the best WrestleManias in a decade, the guys take one last look at the Showcase of the Immortals and discuss what they liked, what they didn’t like, and where things might go from here. Tune in!

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King’s Live In Person Reactions To WWE WrestleMania 38 Night 2

Chris King was live in Arlington, Texas for the most “stupendous” WrestleMania Night 2. These are the biggest takeaways and thoughts of the grand event. 

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Chris King was live in Arlington, Texas for the most “stupendous” WrestleMania Night 2. These are the biggest takeaways and thoughts of the grand event. 

The Game Is Sadly Over

The moment Triple He’s music hit the whole stadium came unglued. A huge roar came from the crowd myself included. It was an awesome and somber moment when he left his boots in the ring. I believe HHH will be inducted into next year’s hall of fame.

RKBro Is Fantastic 

If anyone had told me two years ago that Randy Orton and Matt Riddle would be the Raw Tag Team Champions, I would have thought you were nuts. Somehow though this pairing works and it’s a well-oiled machine. Both superstars delivered the goods including a perfectly-timed RKO from the top rope. Man, it was so cool to see. WWE should keep them together until SummerSlam or longer and then Randy can be Randy again.

Bobby Lashley Is A True Masterpiece

When Omos vs. Bobby Lashley was announced I wasn’t interested at all, that was until I saw how freaking powerful he is. The Almighty truly impressed me and well my girlfriend too who I have to thank for this moment.

Celebrity Matches Are Fun Live

On paper or in an article everyone would give such a match as Johnny Knoxville vs. Sami Zayn a C grade, but when you’re there live it’s a whole other ballgame. The crowd erupts after every outrageous and hilarious stunt and it makes you think twice about WWE’s logic. This was a really fun match.

Pat McAfee Gets His Spotlight

Pat Mcafee has been such a highlight for Friday Night SmackDown for months now, and I was stoked for his match. I fondly remember his amazing match with Adam Cole in NXT so I was excited. What nobody was expecting was this turning into a match with the boss and Stone Cold Steve Austin ending it with a stunner.

Stone Cold Is Still Money 

It could be in the 90s or the 2000s or any freaking era and Stone Cold still delivers. The moment that glass breaks everyone goes completely nuts.  I remember watching Austin raise hell when I was a kid and he still can sell out arenas! What the hell kind of a sell do you call that Vince? Austin Theory sold it amazing though!

A Dream Come True

In 1999 I attended my very first live event for WWE and got to relish in The Undertaker’s Ministry of Darkness theme. The deadman took on Stone Cold and it was a great night of wrestling. Fast forward to the 2003 Survivor Series when Taker was buried alive by his brother Kane and Vince McMahon, but I always dreamed of seeing The Deadman’s official Gong and pyro entrance. For the last time, I was there live to experience the grand entrance for one of if not the greatest to ever lace up the wrestling boots. Thank you, Taker.

 

Edge Is The King Of Trilogies 

I may be beginning to see a trend here when it comes to Edge, his greatness comes in threes. The first was with Orton although the third was halted due to an injury, The Rated-R Superstar did the same with Seth Rollins, and now it appears his next trilogy will include AJ Styles. While this dream match didn’t set the pace as I thought it would, the main focus was on Edge playing his foe like a damn fiddle.

Adding Damian Priest into his fold will set up their next match for WrestleMania Backlash, and the finale at SummerSlam. I’m all for these two veterans continuing this story and adding layers of creativity. Edge should always play the heel, he’s such a badass bad guy.

Brock And Roman’s Greatest Hits

Right during the promo videos me and my crew went to a standing section to see both of these superstars’ amazing entrances. I have never seen Roman Reigns or Brock Lesnar’s entrance live and damn it was cool as hell. Whoever donned this the greatest main event ever was clearly on drugs. This match was more like both juggernauts delivering their greatest hits.

It honestly was more like Lesnar’s previous matches with Reigns before becoming “The Head of The Table”. Paul Heyman tricked “The Beast Incarnate” into eating a massive spear through the barricade. I was only rooting for Reigns for one reason only.

A Missed Opportunity 

There seemed to be a trend with Roman Reigns after defeating his challengers, to stand over them and chant “Acknowledge Me” but instead WWE decided he do this before the match began. The question heard around the world is who can stop “The Tribal Chief?” There’s only one superstar and that’s The Rock. Next year’s Mania is in Hollywood and what better way to set up than to have “The Great One” come out and confront his cousin? Unfortunately, for whatever reason WWE didn’t have The Rock come back. I felt this would have been the perfect time for him to come back but I guess we’ll have to wait patiently for The Rock. Until then we have no choice but to acknowledge our WWE Undisputed Universal Champion!

This was my first WrestleMania and it was such an awesome experience. I never would have been able to make this dream a reality, if it wasn’t for my girlfriend. If you’ve never gone I would encourage you to go and attend “The Showcase of the Immortals!”


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